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05-05-2011 04:51 PM
Minnewaska
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Originally Posted by ewoden View Post
Friendly reminder. There are a number of posts here that discussed the use of oxytetracycline as a marine antifoulant paint additive. Be advised that in 2005 such used were cancelled by the USEPA. To add the compound, veterinary drug sourced or what have you, to marine antifoulant paint could be interpreted as a violation of FIFRA. Procede with due dilligence.

"Use of oxytetracycline as a marine anti-foulant additive for barnacle control was cancelled in 2005."
Oxytetracycline Summary Document
Registration Review: Initial Docket
December 2008
Case # 0655
I have no interest in using the stuff, but I do not understand what "cancelled" means. One would think they would say prohibited if you were not allowed to add it yourself. Could be jargon I'm unfamiliar with.
05-05-2011 04:23 PM
ewoden Friendly reminder. There are a number of posts here that discussed the use of oxytetracycline as a marine antifoulant paint additive. Be advised that in 2005 such used were cancelled by the USEPA. To add the compound, veterinary drug sourced or what have you, to marine antifoulant paint could be interpreted as a violation of FIFRA. Procede with due dilligence.

"Use of oxytetracycline as a marine anti-foulant additive for barnacle control was cancelled in 2005."
Oxytetracycline Summary Document
Registration Review: Initial Docket
December 2008
Case # 0655
03-15-2011 07:17 AM
Minnewaska Discharge permits are being rescinded by the dozens, perhaps hundreds, in New England. There are marinas that are voluntarily making changes, such as prohibiting hull diving or requiring e-green type paints that are getting an extension before having to put in pressure washing containment units. It's like legislating from the bench. The laws themselves haven't necessarily changed much . Its all just a game, but the direction is clear.
03-15-2011 02:08 AM
blt2ski Puget Sound in WA is sorta outlawed in the hull cleaning part. Mostly for ablatives. Hard paints one can have a diver clean the hull, ablative no. My marina will not let you dive and clean ANY bottom, outside the break water, no biggie!

But there does seem to be a "get rid of the copper paints" locally too. Not sure if this is good or bad.....

But this could spread........

Marty
03-14-2011 11:35 PM
Fstbttms
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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
This is the hull cleaning they may outlaw as I posted before.
I understand that but let's be clear- hull cleaning is not being outlawed. That's like saying you can't drive your car anymore because going over 65 mph is illegal.
03-14-2011 11:26 PM
chef2sail Fastbttn,,

The indivigual in the thread you posted is our diver actually.. very knowledgable. He is right about using ablative paints on the Chessie. The slime away properties are superior we have found on a consistant basis. This is the hull cleaning they may outlaw as I posted before. We may have to get shorthauled and powered washed instead of having the diver. Hard paints such as Petit Trinidadad dont do as well ehere.

Dave
03-14-2011 08:46 PM
Fstbttms
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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
I hope you are right Fastbottom. Our diver is great and he has been invaluable. There is a talk of a new MD law prohibiting them working on the bottoms of boats mainly aimed at in water hull cleaning ..we actualy just signed a petition against that in the club. The law had no mention of CU based bttom paints.
I'm actually having a discussion about this with a Maryland hull diver right now over on Cruisers Forum. We're going over the discharge permit and I think I've shown that in-water hull cleaning is not prohibited. It seems the cleaning of ablative paints is, but not hull cleaning in general.

Go here to read the thread:

New Rules for Bottom Paint - Page 3 - Cruisers & Sailing Forums
03-14-2011 08:40 PM
chef2sail As RichH said...dont cheap out on bottom paints....i think you will regret it
03-14-2011 08:39 PM
chef2sail I hope you are right Fastbottom. Our diver is great and he has been invaluable. There is a talk of a new MD law prohibiting them working on the bottoms of boats mainly aimed at in water hull cleaning ..we actualy just signed a petition against that in the club. The law had no mention of CU based bttom paints.
03-14-2011 04:20 PM
Fstbttms
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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Divers have already been banned in the cove where my new marina is located. I don't know if that is the town, state, marina or DEM that proclaimed it.
There are private marinas in this state that do not allow in-water hull cleaning as well. That does not mean it is likely to be banned statewide. Unless you can provide details about the situation you are describing, it is of little use regarding a discussion of the future of in-water hull cleaning.

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
I thought you recently suggested that legislation like this would be far off and using environmentally friendly paints wasn't that critical, yet. I may not recall correctly.
You are correct- sort of. I did say that the Department of Pesticide Regulation (which has authority over anti fouling paints in California) has no plans to ban copper. I said nothing about a ban coming from the the State Legislature, however. The DPR will be re-evaluating all copper-based anti fouling paints available in this state, with an eye towards reformulating them with lower copper content and release rates. SB 623 came out of left field (and was introduced less than a month ago) and is separate from the usual regulatory process regarding anti fouling paint.
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