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06-25-2011 05:34 PM
L124C
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Originally Posted by P26guy View Post

I do like the through hull suggestion as I do have 2 on the port side but none on the starboard. I will definitely make sure those are not playing a part in this.
I have a check list I run through before I go out. I have someone read it to me as I go from bow to stern. Takes about a minute to run through. I got tired of being heeled over in a blow, looking into the salon and realizing I'd left a hatch open, not emptied the standing water in the head, left a sink drain open, etc. and had water in the salon. One time a guest had put together a great lunch, and unknowingly, placed it in the dry sink. On Port tack, the sink is much lower than the water line and I hadn't closed the valve. That was one soggy lunch!
Here is a copy of the list if you are interested. When you look at it, I think you will see how easy it is to forget something on it:

PRE TRIP

Disconnect shore power (if applicable)
Rotate Head Cowling aft (if applicable)

V BERTH
Secure dehumidifiers (Port and Starboard)
Secure Hatch

HEAD
Sink valve CLOSED
Head water intake valve (thru hull) OPEN
Head water intake (lever right side of head) CLOSED (horizontal)
Empty water in Head

SALON
Secure Hatch
Motor coolant valve OPEN
Maint. pump OFF
Bilge pump AUTO
Sink valve CLOSED
Knot meter in (if applicable)
VHF radio ON (channel 16)
Instruments ON

POST TRIP

Connect shore power (if applicable)
Rotate Cowling (if applicable)

SALON
Instruments and all panel switches (other than cabin lights) OFF
VHF Radio OFF
Engine coolant valve CLOSED
Batteries switched to BOTH
Knot meter out (if applicable)
Maint. pump ON-Drain Bilge-OFF
Bilge pump Auto

HEAD
Head water intake valve (thru hull) CLOSED
Sink drain (thru hull) OPEN

V BERTH
Open Dehumidifiers (Port and Starboard)

BEFORE CLOSING COMPANIONWAY
Check that Bilge pump is switched to AUTO and Batteries are switched to BOTH
06-24-2011 10:35 PM
P26guy yeah, I've never been healed more than 20 degrees with this boat. However with the choppiness in the waves we encounter in lake Huron I know that rub rail gets a lot of water hitting the underside of it. We have had some bad spots in the rubber section of the rail since we bought it and I will be replacing it this weekend. While I have it off I am going to take a few days and reseal that entire deck joint thoroughly. I will let everyone know what happens.

I do like the through hull suggestion as I do have 2 on the port side but none on the starboard. I will definitely make sure those are not playing a part in this.

Thanks for all suggestions
06-23-2011 01:39 PM
L124C
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Originally Posted by JimsCAL View Post
I owned a Peason 26 for 10 years. The topsides are pretty high for that sized boat. I think you would have to be over 45 degrees or more before the rub rail would be in the water. If you do this regularly you are not sailing the boat very well.
Obviously, boats with more freeboard are going to bury the rail at greater angles of heel. However, saying that you would need to be "knocked down" to do it is a gross exaggeration! I recently crewed aboard a 50 year old, 53 foot Yawl in the Master Mariners Regatta. We probably dipped the rail on that old girl 3 times during the race, on a relatively mild, but gusty day. After all, on a boat with average freeboard, you don't have to be heeled over that far to have a wave bury the rail. In addition, any time you take water over the bow, the rails are going to get wet. Not trying to be argumentative or go off topic. I simply think we should avoid exaggeration, especially when addressing a self described newbie. IMO, the rail, hull/deck joint is certainly a candidate for causing the OP's leak.
06-22-2011 08:47 PM
SJ34 It's not uncommon for the hull to deck joint to leak. The fix is to remove the rub-rail, deck to hull fasteners, pry the deck and hull apart, clean or grind smooth, lay a bead of something like 3M 5200 and re-assemble. It's not a fun or easy job so make sure the water is coming from the deck to hull joint before starting.
06-22-2011 08:38 PM
JimsCAL
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Originally Posted by L124C View Post
I don't know where you sail JimsCAL, but in the SF bay, we bury the toe rail (above what are commonly referred to as "rub rails") on a fairly regular basis.
I owned a Peason 26 for 10 years. The topsides are pretty high for that sized boat. I think you would have to be over 45 degrees or more before the rub rail would be in the water. If you do this regularly you are not sailing the boat very well.
06-22-2011 06:52 PM
SEMIJim
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Originally Posted by P26guy View Post
... I am finding that when I am sailing close hauled and healing pretty good, I am getting water entering my storage holds in the cabin on both sides of the boat.
Which "storage holds?" Are you talking about the storage under the port and starboard settees? Have you checked the bilge? If there's water in it, it could be rolling out of the bilge and into those storage areas. That used to happen on Abracadabra, when she tended to have more-than-usual water in the bilge because she needed a her stuffing box re-packed.

Jim
06-22-2011 05:57 PM
Siamese Ditto on checking the thru hulls. I had water coming into the shelf behind my dinette on my Catalina 309. Had to be the window in the hull, right. Nope.

Turned out that when I slammed down on some big Lake Michigan waves, water was forced through the drain for the sink in the head. Water pooled on the counter-top, found it's way past the bulkhead, and settled behind the dinette where it began to mess with the veneered plywood.

Now I make sure I don't leave the thru hull open in the rough stuff.

Water is sneaky stuff.
06-22-2011 04:06 PM
L124C
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Originally Posted by JimsCAL View Post
By "storage holds" do you mean under the settees? If so, its more likely coming from the bilge. I doubt the rub rail is submerged unless you are close to being knocked down.
I don't know where you sail JimsCAL, but in the SF bay, we bury the toe rail (above what are commonly referred to as "rub rails") on a fairly regular basis. Not for extended periods, but certainly in the gusts. To the OP; Your toe rails could be leaking. I recently re bedded mine with Butyl Tape. I'm also currently chasing a leak on my boat. Search this site (and my threads) for more info. I also highly recommend Jim Casey's book "Sailboat Maintenance". A little pricey, but worth every penny IMO.
06-22-2011 09:48 AM
arf145 Any thru-hulls open that shouldn't be? With our boat, the head sink thru-hull has to be closed when heeled to stbd or seawater can flow inside through the drain.
06-22-2011 07:53 AM
P26guy Thanks for the replies. I did have all of the portlights resealed which were leaking when it rained. I dont have the rail submerged when healing but think its more of the waves crashing underneath. The waves the other day were about 1 to 2 feet. One thing I did not do is concentrate water onto the rub rail which I will try when I get back to the boat. I did however soak the deck of the boat for quite some time to check for leaking hardware. I will let everyone know what I find.
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