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12-26-2011 01:28 PM
L124C
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Originally Posted by Faster View Post
Late to this discussion... good going L124C.. Unfortunately, this is a timeless subject if you own a "yacht". Any input is good input IMHO!
The idea of careening the boat to work on the waterline is a good one.. we prepped a 40 footer some years back at the slip prior to hauling out for the job proper.. spent another few days cleaning up the waterline and under the counter where we were unable to reach. (the shape/sizes of our neighboring boats precluded leaning her over)
I was able to thread the Kedge line through the rigs of several neighbors. Took some experimentation, but wasn't nearly as difficult as I anticipated. Maybe I just got lucky!
After 2-3 weeks working when we could we were another 16 days hauled out, that included adding a proper anchor locker/foredeck hatch and cutting a cockpit hatch into the lazarette area prior to painting the deck (we were able to pattern the new nonskid around all that so it looked original) We did use Awlgrip with reasonable results (like most amateur jobs - perfect from far but far from perfect )

With our current boat we did strip a hull stripe and repaint it in the water, also wet sanded the chalky gelcoat and then resealed/waxed in the water. In this case the dock was a few feet shorter than the boat.. being 'clever' I found a loose plank to extend the dock a bit.... worked great until I reached one inch past the critical balance point.... ended up in the water before I knew what was happening! Fortunately our ladder was down.....
A "You Tube" moment, if their ever was one!
One trick I have yet to learn is how to mask long lines/stripes smoothly with no 'ripples'...
I didn't have any problem with the Boot stripe. Masking the Cove stripe gives me fits though! I would have guessed the opposite would be true.
12-26-2011 11:54 AM
Faster Late to this discussion... good going L124C..
The idea of careening the boat to work on the waterline is a good one.. we prepped a 40 footer some years back at the slip prior to hauling out for the job proper.. spent another few days cleaning up the waterline and under the counter where we were unable to reach. (the shape/sizes of our neighbouring boats precluded leaning her over)

After 2-3 weeks working when we could we were another 16 days hauled out, that included adding a proper anchor locker/foredeck hatch and cutting a cockpit hatch into the lazarette area prior to painting the deck (we were able to pattern the new nonskid around all that so it looked original) We did use Awlgrip with reasonable results (like most amateur jobs - perfect from far but far from perfect )

With our current boat we did strip a hull stripe and repaint it in the water, also wet sanded the chalky gelcoat and then resealed/waxed in the water. In this case the dock was a few feet shorter than the boat.. being 'clever' I found a loose plank to extend the dock a bit.... worked great until I reached one inch past the critical balance point.... ended up in the water before I knew what was happening! Fortunately our ladder was down.....

One trick I have yet to learn is how to mask long lines/stripes smoothly with no 'ripples'...
12-26-2011 10:57 AM
captflood GREETINGS EARTHLINGS I have painted afloat but It is not enjoyable when on small-boat and lean in to get a bit of pressure the boats wants to go the other way so to componsate this you make the roping tighter wich then marks the newly appied paint.
Regarding the boot top DO NOT SCORE THE LINE! Just make sure that you have a watertight edge on this by pressing home with a plastic of rubber hard roller this stops the paint infulltrating the masking tape. (DO NOT MIX ALL THE PAINT IN ONE GO.) THIS WILL EXTEND YOUR WORKING TIME GO SAFE
11-08-2011 01:38 PM
L124C
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Originally Posted by emoney View Post
Great job and I think we need more "after" pics in this thread!
Way to go.
Actually, those pics were "during". Here is an "after". Far from perfect, but it's a lot cleaner than what I had, and I learned a lot. I try to follow up on any threads I start, in an effort to pay back what I have learned from the forum. You can see I'm working on the stearn now. The glazing compound (blue stuff) kicked too rapidly. I'm going to try another compound on the other side. I'll do another thread about it if anyone is interested.
11-07-2011 06:07 PM
Capt Len I painted in the water while gunkholing up the coast one year. It was a long time (next haulout) before both sides were the same colour.
11-05-2011 01:12 PM
L124C
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Originally Posted by SanSimon View Post
Any tips / recommendations on painting a deck out of the water? It sounds like you have experience with this - one part or two part - preparation what works best ect. We have an 85 27 Ericson that we want to give new life to but don't want to turn it into a horror story. Any info is greatly appreciated!
Actually, I've painted two decks while the boats were in the water. Though fortunately, their decks were still out of the water (I assume you meant top sides). The last time,I used Rustolium top side paint (single part) and am pleased with the results. Some Lowe's sell it,and I think ACE hardwares can order it. At $10 a quart, it's much less expensive than Interlux. A dock mate just painted his deck with Interlux and I prefer my results. Lets see how long it lasts! I removed a lot of hardware, and wouldn't do that again for a role and tip single part job. I can "cut in" pretty well with a good brush, and mask if I have to. Follow the directions on the can and have at it! IMO, one of the easiest and most rewarding DIY projects you can do on your boat. I think two part would certainly last longer, but doubt the complexity and cost involved in using it on a deck is worth it. If I had the boat dissembled for a refit, thats another story! BTW, I highly recommend Don Casey's book "Sailboat Maintenance". A little pricey, but worth every penny IMO!
11-05-2011 11:02 AM
emoney Great job and I think we need more "after" pics in this thread!
Way to go.
11-05-2011 10:05 AM
SanSimon
deck painting

Any tips / recomendations on painting a deck out of the water? It sounds like you have experience with this - one part or two part - preparation what works best ect. We have an 85 27 Ericson that we want to give new life to but don't want to turn it into a horror story. Any info is greatly appreciated!
11-03-2011 07:43 PM
SailingWebGuy Nice work!
11-03-2011 07:15 PM
L124C Well....I did it. I painted half the hull in the berth. Thanks to celenoglu for suggesting kedging to raise the hull. This was crucial. Not only does it provide better access on the side to be painted, but it stabilizes the boat. I was able to let out the stern and pull in the bow (or visa versa) as needed. In addition, the wind could have picked up substantially, and the wet paint would have still been high and dry. I didn't find a need to "Med Moore" the boat. I simply slacked the lines on the side I intended to paint. I put a block on the end of the halyard and ran another line (line 2) through it. I hoisted the block to the top of the mast, ran one end of line 2 to a dock cleat three boats down the dock (on the side of the boat not being painted), making sure it cleared my dock mates rigging. I ran the other end of line two into a block on deck (side to be painted) and back to a jib sheet winch. I could heel the boat 5 degrees by hand, 10 or more using the winch.
Conditions were good, light wind, about 70 degrees. I tried to work from a dingy, but quickly figured out it was better to work off the dock. for the lower sections, I sat on the dock with my legs in the water. Hooked my palm sander to a shop vac, and put a foam pad between the hull and the dock to catch additional dust. This kept any dust to a minimum. Initially, I was borrowing a double finger slip, but soon figured out that I could work off my single finger dock.
Note: The power supply came from shore power via the boat. I have GFI circuits on the boat. In fact, I got mildly zapped on the dock one time when I stupidly sprayed the dock with water with an extension cord on it! I also dropped a cord in the water. In both cases, the GFI instantly popped the circuit. My dock supply DOES NOT have GFI protection (hard to believe, but true!). I'm not an electrician, but would certainly NOT advise working with power tools on the dock, without GFI protection.
The pictures show the boat in position for preping and painting the bow to midships. When I needed access to midships to Stern, I would let out the bow line and pull in the stern line. The other picture is the Starboard side in same position.
I used single part paint, mainly because I didn't want to deal with learning to maneuverer the boat, and deal with two part paint at the same time. Having done it, I would have no hesitation in using two part paint.
The inconvenience of maneuvering the boat and extra dust control was out weighed by the commute to a yard, working in a nice familiar environment (my slip) for which I would be paying anyway. Sitting on the dock with your feet in the water (on a nice day), beats standing on scaffolding in a yard any day IMO!
I think it is worth considering painting your hull in the slip If:
You are in reasonably good shape
Your marina will allow it, or doesn't care enough to realize it's happening (my case!).
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