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2 Hours Ago 02:21 AM
jimsair
Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

Hi Halekai, I know you probably get bombarded with questions, but if you have a minute, I'd love to get your thoughts.

I'm going to recondition the hull and deck of my 2001 J/105. The hull is my main area of interest. I have a quality Hitachi polisher that has served me well for many years, and I'm going to go all out and use the products you recommended as the best. Specifically:

On and Off
Presta Gel Compound
Presta Utra cutting Creme
Presta Ultra Polish (formerly known as Chroma 1500)
Collinite #885 fleet wax

I have a fair amount of oxidizing on the hull and deck. Should I start with the Presta Gel Compound and #05711 pad and follow with the Ultra Cutting Creme and #05713 pad, or should I just start with the UCC and 05713 pad?

Also, how much compound and polish should I buy to do a J/105? I was thinking of getting a gallon of compound and two quarts of Chroma 1500.


Thank you for your help,

Jim
3 Weeks Ago 09:46 AM
travlineasy
Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

Sure glad I don't have to do any of that hard labor stuff anymore. I switched to Poli-Glow and love this stuff. Besides, I'm old.

Gary
3 Weeks Ago 08:48 PM
TakeFive
Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

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Originally Posted by overbored View Post
sounds like you skipped a few steps. if the hull had shine then you did not need to sand. if you sand then you need to sand with finer and finer paper to about 1500 grit. then you said you used Presta. which one there are several types of Presta compound and again you use the coarse one then the medium and then the fine before you wax. if you want it right then you can not skip any steps. go back and reread his instructions and you will see the steps you skipped.
If you only have mild oxidation, "Presta Cutting Cream" can get you there in one step. It starts as a coarse grit, but becomes finer as you work it. It's really a time saver if your boat isn't too bad. Maine Sail mentions this in his instructions.
4 Weeks Ago 07:59 AM
JIvories
Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

Thanks Overbored. Need much more time and patience I think, to go gradually through the steps. I wish I had had more time. Although apparently if you wash and wax regularly, no need to sand or compound every time.
04-22-2015 12:24 AM
overbored
Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

sounds like you skipped a few steps. if the hull had shine then you did not need to sand. if you sand then you need to sand with finer and finer paper to about 1500 grit. then you said you used Presta. which one there are several types of Presta compound and again you use the coarse one then the medium and then the fine before you wax. if you want it right then you can not skip any steps. go back and reread his instructions and you will see the steps you skipped.
04-21-2015 11:38 PM
JIvories
Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

Wondering if you all could help. I have an S2 9.2A from 1984. I really messed up my hull I'm afraid. There were oxidized sections, so following MaineSail's recommendations, I wet sanded the hull with 800 grit, went lightly xcept on a few stained spots. Then rinsed. Then tried compound with Presta and wool pad on polisher. I couldn't get shine. It remained chaulky looking. Then, running short on time, went to polish phase, but didn't change much. I had to wax because boat was going in water (had to be out of yard). So this season have to live with dull but protected gelcoat. Just wondering where I'm going wrong: should I not have rinsed after wet sanding? Am I using too much compound? I didn't put more on than in MaineSail's directions. But After letting it dry to haze, it just wouldn't clear up and shine, and same with polish. Used microfiber rags. Frustrating because most of hull looked pretty good before, if not great. Now it looks clean but dull and chaulky. Hoping I can get shine back, tho it'll have to be next season!
10-12-2014 08:57 PM
davisr
Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

Hey Maine,

Appreciate the tips. Used the Makita buffer and the Presta products you recommended. Took me a while to find my groove with the buffer. The 40 year old gel coat on my boat appears to have come back to life. Here's a picture of my hull after the first step - compounding - before I moved on to the polishing and waxing.

Roscoe
Ericson 25, Oystercatcher
Charleston, SC

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06-25-2014 11:02 PM
This Old Sailboat
Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

So here's what works best so far.

I've also been using 3M sanding disks in 600, 1000, and 1500 grit. The loop fabric on the 1000 grit disks comes off very easily, even by itself after some use. I washed one and spread it flat to dry, then glued it right on the back of the compounding pad with 3M Super 77 spread adhesive and let it dry completely. About 75% of it is still attached after doing about 16' of hull, so not bad!

The morale of the story is still don't get too close to any perpendicular edges while buffing.
06-21-2014 09:05 PM
This Old Sailboat
Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

Maine Sail,

I accidentally let my compounding pad catch on some deck hardware a couple of times. It apparently tore some of the loops off the back and now the pad won't stick well to the buffer anymore. Do you have a trick for fixing the pad or do I need to get a new pad? It's nearly new, so I hate to toss it already.

I know, it's my own fault, trying too get to close to the hardware but I'm still getting a feel for it
03-27-2014 01:18 PM
oomfh
Re: Tips For Compound, Polish & Wax

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Originally Posted by Gregrosine View Post
Results look great. This is our first year preparing for a splash. with a 35 foot boat how much compound and wax will we need?
I found the gallon containers so economical, I didn't even pull out a calculator. I'm not sure if the instructions talk about storage, but I keep the leftovers in a place where they won't freeze.

Good luck!
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