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11-26-2011 05:38 PM
karl74 Hi, I'm in the prosses of purchasing my first sail boat. If the survey goes well then I shall be the proud new owner of an Elizabethan 30. For me it was purely down to cost and style. Interior space or luxury really isn't an issue for me as I've spent the last twenty or so years at sea with the Royal Navy where living space or comforts isn't a fact of life. I just love the classic lines and would of liked a Contessa 32 but they are not within my budget and in looks the Elizabethan is a close compromise for me with pretty much the same satistics. I've no long term plans of blue water cruising as her indoors is against me buying her so perhaps the odd long weekend here and there to start with.
Good luck on your search.
11-26-2011 05:01 PM
vega1860 You are getting lots of good advice here Matthew. We should be back up in your neck of the woods next year and you are welcome to check out our Vega 27 in person (We are in Hawaii at the moment). The Vega is OK for two people and a cat but I think a dog would require more space.

Our videos and web site may also be helpful.
11-22-2011 01:30 PM
zedboy
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So after further research and a LOT of really helpful posts, we decided that we're going to live on land for the summer in the Okanagan join the yacht club, take a bunch of lessons, then set out for Victoria or Vancouver and purchase a boat to live on for the winter. I guess we'll just see how that goes after.
Good call. Sail enough on OPBs that both of you get good and seasick once or twice (or prove to yourself that you don't get seasick even when everyone around you does) and do a little introspection. In my experience, everyone loves sailing in smooth water and beautiful weather. It's when it's nasty and lumpy that separates the sailors from the rest, or the men from the boys, or the sane from the ...
11-22-2011 01:21 PM
bdietrich Read my web site, starting at
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11-22-2011 12:44 PM
mathewsaunders one wants to be friends to see what ends up happening just add me. Thanks so much again guys!
11-22-2011 12:43 PM
mathewsaunders So after further research and a LOT of really helpful posts, we decided that we're going to live on land for the summer in the Okanagan join the yacht club, take a bunch of lessons, then set out for Victoria or Vancouver and purchase a boat to live on for the winter. I guess we'll just see how that goes after. Thanks so much everyone for all your helpful posts! I'm going to be updating here, and on my profile so if any
11-21-2011 06:54 PM
JordanH Hi Matthew,
You may wish to visit your local Chapters/Indigo and find some books by John Vigor. He has lots of interesting things to say about what type of boat may suit your desires to sail around the world. There are also quite a few blogs about families, and couples that are doing this as well.

If you are truly minimalist and want to sail the ocean, check out Bika's blog: Home - Bika ... I own a Contessa, and I find it hard to comprehend how they are doing what they're doing on the same boat, yet they are and have been for years. I will hazard a guess that you can't do more with less like they do. I enjoy cruising on my small boat, but I could not live in her unless I was alone and not frequenting society. Here's a second video log of a fellow that just crossed the Atlantic twice in his 26' Contessa Red Admiral Trans Atlantic Part I.dv - YouTube : This gives you some REAL WORLD footage of what it's like, how the ocean can be, and how living on a small vessel is (even if just for a short time). If that doesn't convince you that you and your wife require a larger vessel, I don't know what will. :-)

You should check out the Volvo Ocean Race video's from the past and the current; The footage gives you some ideas of what ocean seas can be like.

Lastly, in fun, you must be from a few hundred years in the past... these days, we sail around the world, not across it. ;-) Watch out for the edge of the world, there be dragons.
11-21-2011 06:24 PM
bjslife Hello Mathew, I had the same dreams as you do. I lived inland a bit about 4 hrs from the coast and always dreamed of buying a boat and sailing along the coasts and around the world. I first purchased a 24' venture(macgregor) that was on a trailer. I enjoyed it but the head room was low and after 2-3 days aboard my neck and back hurt. Plus the factor of not really trusting that size to go out coastal cruising and not having all of the amenities that i wanted for long stays aboard. I sold it and bought a 33' Morgan O/I last may and sold everything and moved aboard and JUST DID IT. Now i am happy with my decision so is my girlfriend and our 2 little dogs. I looked at many many boats to buy, over 100. I decided that the sailboat must be 30' or larger and up to 36-38' but the larger the boat the more slip fees cost and i wanted to single hand it if needed, that way we would all have enough room and still have the things we enjoyed at a land based home ie. flat screen(its 12v), microwave,stove and oven, a shower(even though we have to turn in circles to get wet lol) and enough room for all of us to sleep. So my advice is make sure you can stand up and lay down in your new adventure, and yes a beamy boat is alot more comfortable.
11-18-2011 05:38 AM
killarney_sailor
You will likely have to pay shipping charges twice

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Originally Posted by mathewsaunders View Post
It has not been built, but we do not mind paying the shipping costs getting it to Vancouver.
I can't imagine you will find a world-cruise suitable boat on the lake so you would have to buy something on the coast and get it trucked to the lake and then trucked back when you want it in the ocean. The costs for shipping a decent sized sailboat likely will surprise you.

Also, when it comes time to buy the 'real' cruising boat there are better place so to buy than BC and adjacent parts of US. Prices are lower elsewhere and the selection is likely greater.
11-17-2011 02:42 PM
emoney I think the "Join a local sailing club" idea is a great one so far, and I'd add that after you've gotten your "feet wet", so-to-speak, start chartering and spending time overnight, over the weekend, for a week, to get a feel for what you will really need. Every boat seems enormous initially, and we even find ourselves saying things like, "Oh, I'd never need more than this much room", until we spend about 20 minutes on it and then it's back to yachtworld and the search begins anew.

There's nothing wrong with making a "decision" to go this route quickly, but you will better serve yourself if you take your time in acquiring the boat. There are so many little nuances that we each desire/need that it's hard to say, "You should go buy boat 'X'." There's one major consideration you need to focus on and that's headroom. If you're going to be spending 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year living on a boat, you can't imagine how miserable that time will be if you can't stand up. In this buyer's market, there's no need to rush to any quick decisions on purchasing, so take your time, find the boat that fits your needs and fuels your desire and then begin that chapter. There's too many stories that start just like yours that end up poorly mainly due to poor planning. Here's a few videos from a young couple like yourselves that started their journey on a 28' boat;
THE LIVEABOARDS: SAILBOAT LIVING, WELCOME ABOARD!!!! - YouTube
But, take notice that there have been no "updates" in the past 18months?? Good luck.
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