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1 Week Ago 04:08 PM
longjonsilver
Re: Hughes Sailboats

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Yeah, but isn't that one of the ones built on Hughes mouldings?
yessiree
1 Week Ago 09:31 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Hughes Sailboats

Yeah, but isn't that one of the ones built on Hughes mouldings?
1 Week Ago 08:54 PM
Faster
Re: Hughes Sailboats

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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
I have a pretty good opinion of Hughes boats but Yowza! none of them, even heavily customized, ever looked remotely like that.
That's no Hughes, that's a Hinckley ! Pretty boat, nice interior...
1 Week Ago 08:51 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Hughes Sailboats

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Originally Posted by longjonsilver View Post
here is a photo of the Hinckley Competition 38. the trim tab can be seen just forward of the jack stand in the last photo.
1970 Hinckley 38 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
I have a pretty good opinion of Hughes boats but Yowza! none of them, even heavily customized, ever looked remotely like that.

P.S. keel trim tabs are a stupid complexity for little more than a theoretical benefit. Banning them or penalizing them out of existence was a very wise move on the part of the powers that be (or were).
1 Week Ago 08:02 PM
Cappy joe
Re: Hughes Sailboats

My first boat was a Hughes 25 -a pretty decent classic style little boat. I traded it, along with you much money for a newer style boat with "wheel" steeering, interior teak, and poor quality. When the new smell wore off, I was at once in want of my old Hughes -tiller and all!

Cheers
1 Week Ago 03:51 PM
longjonsilver
Re: Hughes Sailboats

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Originally Posted by Jeff_H View Post
The trim tabs were very effective in enough wind. Set properly they basically created lift and just about eliminated leeway. It was very eirie to sail next to one as it would seem to be moving sidewards upwind. It wasn't of course, but compared to your boat's leeway it appeared that way.

They also allowed some balancing of the helm, but it came at the price of increased drag and so really was only used in a decent breeze.
Jeff
Two things: It seems that the trim tabs are like a flap on an airplane wing; they create lift AND drag. Perhaps the trim tab should be set at a smaller angle in light air than in heavy air; less lift but also less drag. Thots?

Secondly, on a, say, starboard tack, should the trim tab wheel be set to starboard or port? Im guessing trim tab on port on starboard tack, but i really dunno.

jon
1 Week Ago 07:29 AM
longjonsilver
Re: Hughes Sailboats

here is a photo of the Hinckley Competition 38. the trim tab can be seen just forward of the jack stand in the last photo.
1970 Hinckley 38 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com
1 Week Ago 09:20 PM
Jeff_H
Re: Hughes Sailboats

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Originally Posted by miatapaul View Post
actually the trim tab is on the back of the fin keel. I looked at a Cal 36 that had one (it had a small tiller to control it). It made the back of the keel act as a second rudder. It was to beat a rule and I believe the rules were adjusted quickly and they were dropped. You can see it on the back of the keel in this drawing (Hinkley 38, but same hull, out of the same mold)



I would not be surprised if most of them are corroded solid by now after all they are almost 50 years old and by all accounts were of little value.
The Hinkley version came into being when a small syndicate from Manhasset Bay decided to have around a dozen built. It was the same syndicate which had the Hinckley pilot and Bermuda 40 designed and built, and many of the survivors also were involved in developing the Brewer 12.8. Within that syndicate were people like Richard DuMoulin and Harrold Oldak, both of whom were involved in the America's cup of that era. Oldak was involved in developing some of the early rod rigging fittings used on America's cup boats. He had used rod rigging on his Pilot 35.

The trim tabs were very effective in enough wind. Set properly they basically created lift and just about eliminated leeway. It was very eirie to sail next to one as it would seem to be moving sidewards upwind. It wasn't of course, but compared to your boat's leeway it appeared that way.

They also allowed some balancing of the helm, but it came at the price of increased drag and so really was only used in a decent breeze.

Jeff
1 Week Ago 07:39 PM
miatapaul
Re: Hughes Sailboats

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Originally Posted by krisscross View Post
That is the more likely case, IMO. Trim tab on the rudder with control on the wheel.
actually the trim tab is on the back of the fin keel. I looked at a Cal 36 that had one (it had a small tiller to control it). It made the back of the keel act as a second rudder. It was to beat a rule and I believe the rules were adjusted quickly and they were dropped. You can see it on the back of the keel in this drawing (Hinkley 38, but same hull, out of the same mold)



I would not be surprised if most of them are corroded solid by now after all they are almost 50 years old and by all accounts were of little value.
1 Week Ago 07:04 PM
longjonsilver
Re: Hughes Sailboats

thats the boat
thanks
jon
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