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|02-11-2012 01:53 AM|
Belated thank you for that detailed post, Jack.
|01-27-2012 06:32 PM|
Some advantages of heaving to:
I can do the CYA methods, I teach them, but prefer the heave to
The ISPA method is called heave-to, sail-to, heave-to. That is the sequence for upwind. It is similar to the quick stop, but the jib is kept up to allow the last heave-to.
|01-27-2012 05:31 PM|
One thing I noticed on this video is that they approached on his lee side and then luffed basically right on top of him. Handled it well, but if he hadn't grabbed that rope right away (what if he was unconscious?) they might have been blown off downwind again, leaving him behind.
Come to think of it, I have a pretty strong memory of being taught to approach to leeward, maybe because you didn't want the wind to push the boat onto the MOB, and because if you drill it enough and are awesome and time your course changes perfectly, the method is supposed to bring you exactly to the right spot.
|01-27-2012 04:59 PM|
Originally Posted by Bene505 View Post
|01-27-2012 04:46 PM|
I'll have to try the heave-to method. It seems like it would work under bad conditions, and throwing a line downwind is actually possible.
A MOB pole is on my wish list. Right now, SOP is to throw everything that floats into the water and then continually point to the MOB. By the way, after one practice session, my kids named the practice MOB cushion "Manly". So it's "Manly overboard".
|01-27-2012 03:25 PM|
|01-27-2012 10:37 AM|
I wondered when someone was going to pick up on this
Originally Posted by Boatsmith View Post
How many posters have sailed and owned boats that can sustain 20 knots, and have sailed many days in those conditions? I have. My last boat would really scoot. The most I ever saw was 24 knots. Though I have a cruising boat now, we are not talking about a cruising boat.
Heave to in 20-30 knots? Not in my worst nightmare. Too easy to get knocked flat with no way on. Too easy to blow right over the MOB. These boats have to keep moving.
Jib up? Yes, required to punch waves in that wind. Just a small jib will do.
Too fast on the apraoch? Remember, these boats are VERY manuverable and steer on a dime. There was no risk of hitting the MOB on that aproach and it gave them the best possible control. Also note that the boat quickly stopped when the sheets were eased. Little mass. I've done MOB drills on days like that, and the aproach was textbook, FOR THAT BOAT.
Good seamanship? Clearly they knew how to handle their boat. They really should have had the hatch closed; sport boats have sunk that way, one very near my home. We always closed up on blustery days. Harnesses? though I am a big believer, they are a challenge on small performance boats at speed. They are a challenge to crew agility, so I understand why they did not. Clearly sailing at 20 knots in a small boat without a chase boat is always asking for trouble. Things happen SO fast. I never pushed that sort of speed more than a few miles out; I want to be certain help was near and that and MOB search would be restricted in area.
But it's a thrill!
|01-27-2012 10:27 AM|
|smackdaddy||I buy 30 knots in that vid.|
|01-27-2012 09:44 AM|
|Boatsmith||With a main reefed to that point in that wind this type of boat won't go to weather, the bow would just blow off. Oh itmight go upwind but it won't go through a tack.As far as wthe wind speed goes the boat has a small chute an deepreefed main ,is doing 19+, and driving the bow through waves. I don't think that you get that in only 20. How hard does it have to blow to get your boat up to that speed?|
|01-27-2012 09:03 AM|
|jameswilson29||Don't you know, on youtube, everyone is sailing in 30 knots...|
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