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03-08-2012 12:40 PM
SloopJonB
Re: the inevitable slow death of sailing journalism - does it matter

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Originally Posted by dylanwinter1 View Post
I screwed up by not reading or understanding their rules - the first contract is around 10,000 words with around 30,000 of subclauses linked from hot links in the contract.
As soon as you saw that you should have known you were going to get screwed. There is only ONE reason for contracts like that, or 37 page contracts for a basic credit card etc. - to screw the signer.

Honest people don't require fine print.
03-08-2012 09:27 AM
beej67
Re: the inevitable slow death of sailing journalism - does it matter

Google does need a "Whoops, we were evil" hotline.
03-08-2012 08:20 AM
MikeOReilly
Re: the inevitable slow death of sailing journalism - does it matter

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Originally Posted by dylanwinter1 View Post
I am a bit pished that Google is still making money from my work by placing adverts against it - but I guess hosting those 28 million hits is not without costs for them. I have two other youtube spaces and they are one to two million hit youtube spaces. Every now and again I get a computer generated email asking me to sign up for adsense - but I have a permanently blocked identity.
I think this is a key point. They are still making lots of bucks from your work -- from our works. In the past they were print publishers or broadcast owners. Now it's online tech companies, but it is still the same game.

However, what has changed is that they no longer pay much or anything for the raw material -- the "content" as it is now called. They've figured out a way to get all of us to give them our material, our information, our identities, for practically nothing. Meanwhile they are making gobs of money using our material, trickling down a few shekels to us, the new serfs of the information age.

The sad thing is, we've all happily rushed in to give them our work, our money, our identities and our lives; all for the promise of a few pennies, and "free" access to all this stuff.

Remember the old saying: "There's no such thing as free lunch"? We are pay, one way or another.
03-08-2012 05:26 AM
dylanwinter1
Re: the inevitable slow death of sailing journalism - does it matter

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Wow Dylan, thanks for the comprehensive look at how you're trying to tie ends together. That's some fantastic first hand info. Sounds to me like you got screwed on the whole "click fraud" deal.
I screwed up by not reading or understanding their rules - the first contract is around 10,000 words with around 30,000 of subclauses linked from hot links in the contract. I should never have put the adsense block on the sailing website that way the income would still be flowing from youtube.

However, it will make a great chapter for the book

I am a bit pished that Google is still making money from my work by placing adverts against it - but I guess hosting those 28 million hits is not without costs for them. I have two other youtube spaces and they are one to two million hit youtube spaces. Every now and again I get a computer generated email asking me to sign up for adsense - but I have a permanently blocked identity.

I often wonder how many people there are like me who would still be making content for them if they had not been cast out by the weirdnesses of the google computers - however google is about managing poeple by computer algorythm and let us face it - who is running the successful operation

- me or them

their motto is

"don't be evil"

my suggestion is.....be careful with all your dealings with google - the chances are that if you have ticked any of those Gmail/youtube/facebook/google earth contract boxes they already own your house/boat/dog/wife
03-07-2012 09:44 PM
beej67
Re: the inevitable slow death of sailing journalism - does it matter

Wow Dylan, thanks for the comprehensive look at how you're trying to tie ends together. That's some fantastic first hand info. Sounds to me like you got screwed on the whole "click fraud" deal.
02-28-2012 08:01 PM
cupper3
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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
Hell, I go back to PARTY LINES and dedicated switchboard operators in offices (can I have an outside line please?). I was an adult when push button phones arrived - they were about as cool then as an I-Phone is now.

I think we need a GEEZER smilie.
LOL... that IS scary because our first phone was on a party line too. In fact, some farmers at the time still had the old crank style.

Sheeeeet, and now my kids are approaching middle age.
02-28-2012 07:57 PM
SloopJonB
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Originally Posted by svzephyr44 View Post
Plain Old Telephone Service .. Do you tip and ring?
Hell, I go back to PARTY LINES and dedicated switchboard operators in offices (can I have an outside line please?). I was an adult when push button phones arrived - they were about as cool then as an I-Phone is now.

I think we need a GEEZER smilie.
02-28-2012 07:52 PM
cupper3
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Originally Posted by svzephyr44 View Post
Plain Old Telephone Service .. Do you tip and ring?
POTS still used by techs today; my son now takes care of the regional backbone (I can complain directly now ) and if all else fails, POTS doesn't. Sort of that analog/digital thing. Some of the POTS switching equipment was installed in the 1960's and teleco sees no reason to upgrade.... it just plain works.
02-28-2012 07:35 PM
bljones One advantage of magazines over iPads, tablets, e-readers, etc. When reading in a stall in a public washroom, one can roll the magazine and jam it into the TP holder whilst one refastens one's chinos.
02-28-2012 07:35 PM
svzephyr44
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Originally Posted by SloopJonB View Post
You'll have to refresh me re: POTS - I seldom have trouble figuring out acronyms but that one has me stumped.
Plain Old Telephone Service .. Do you tip and ring?
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