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04-05-2012 05:16 PM
HBBurlington
Re: Resealing/Replacing Beckson Ports?

Update:

Can I just tell you what a pain in the *ss replacing the rubber gasket is??
First I snapped the gasket, and then I snapped!!!
Uncharacteristically, I surrendered to the fact that I couldn't get the dang thing lined up
properly.
Fortunately, there was a Remy XO waiting at home for me...
We will try again this weekend.
Look for the mushroom cloud on the horizon!!!

K.
03-09-2012 09:21 PM
CalebD
Re: Resealing/Replacing Beckson Ports?

What I find to be funny is that MaineSail's pics of the broken 'dogs' from his Beckson ports look an awful lot like to ports on my friends Endeavor 32'.
I'll grant you that the ports in MS's picture and the ones on my friends boat are probably 15 - 30 years old and likely beyond the expected lifespan of a Beckson port. The life expectancy of the NFM port lights has got to be significantly longer then the plastic Becksons.
In my humble opinion the NFM port lights look better, will last longer and will withstand even pretty large waves crashing on them. The Becksons would probably be fine if you are staying close to shore in fair weather and/or your finances are less then robust - but expect to replace them every 10 - 20 years as they do break/crack/leak eventually.
MaineSail will give you great advice.
Good luck.
03-09-2012 10:39 AM
HBBurlington
Re: Resealing/Replacing Beckson Ports?

Thanks!
Will do....!!
03-09-2012 10:36 AM
Maine Sail
Re: Resealing/Replacing Beckson Ports?

Quote:
Originally Posted by HBBurlington View Post
I've printed the article from the link, and will look at it in more detail on the weekend with a coffee/Bailey's by the fireplace...along with my HMP catalogue...

Kim
Kim,

If you have any questions about the article just PM me or email me. My email link is on my web site.. or compassmarineservices at gmail dot com

The NFM ports are one of the sweetest upgrades we've done to our CS...
03-09-2012 10:09 AM
HBBurlington
Re: Resealing/Replacing Beckson Ports?

Excellent advice from everyone, and interesting reading.
I've printed the article from the link, and will look at it in more detail on the weekend with a coffee/Bailey's by the fireplace...along with my HMP catalogue...

Kim
03-09-2012 09:15 AM
Maine Sail
Re: Resealing/Replacing Beckson Ports?

Quote:
Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
Mark Plastics, who still supply Islander and other "original" replacements, also say silicone sealant only. I can only guess that some makers spec silicone simply because it can be pulled out at a later date when it always will create new business. I've never heard an "engineering" reason to use it.

They spec it because unlike some polyurethane sealants, and more importantly polysulfides, silicone does not leech the plasticizers out of the plastic and make the ports prematurely brittle.

If anyones ever tried to remove a port put in with Dow 795, or another quality architectural grade silicone, they know how tenacious it can be. It can be as bad as 4200 to remove and often the Beckson ports crack in the process....


I'd suggest going straight to a port that will both increase curb appeal and be far more robust...

Installing New Found Metals Port Lights (LINK)

These were the old Becksons that came out of my own boat. Does not give you the warm and fuzzies when off-shore in rough water....




At the time we converted from Beckson to a SS ports we paid about $48.00 more per port than Beckson. Today that pricing spread may be different?? With 8 ports that made the difference about $384.00, port light to port light for 8, and one that was well worth it...
03-09-2012 08:59 AM
sailingfool
Re: Resealing/Replacing Beckson Ports?

Installing New Found Metals Stainless Portlights Photo Gallery by Compass Marine at pbase.com
03-09-2012 01:42 AM
CalebD
Re: Resealing/Replacing Beckson Ports?

This from left field.
A friend of mine has a 32' Endeavor with original Beckson ports in it. Many of them.
Replacement ports from Beckson are < $150 a piece. They are cheap and cheaply made. I am happy that my boat does not have them as on my friends boat from @ 1980 (which is newer then mine) many of the 'dogs' and plastic hinges have cracked and they leak consistently.
Beckson plastic port lights do not inspire 'Blue Water' confidence in me. If they break by normal mis-handling then what will a wave of angry water do to them?
Not that my friend wants to take his Endeavor 32' to Bermuda anytime soon as he is happy tooling about the Chesapeake with them in his boat, and that is just fine.
I'd also think about scrapping using Silicone and use a good brand of Butyl tape to bed them. I would also seriously think about scrapping Beckson's ports altogether if I planned to use my boat anywhere offshore for more then a few days.
Considering how cheap ($$$) these port lights are I understand why builders and owners continue to use them. They just do not inspire much confidence in me.
Your boat, your call.
03-08-2012 11:52 PM
hellosailor
Re: Resealing/Replacing Beckson Ports?

Mark Plastics, who still supply Islander and other "original" replacements, also say silicone sealant only. I can only guess that some makers spec silicone simply because it can be pulled out at a later date when it always will create new business. I've never heard an "engineering" reason to use it.
03-08-2012 10:21 PM
FSMike
Re: Resealing/Replacing Beckson Ports?

I believe Beckson specifies silicone sealant only. If you are rebedding with silicone you need to remove ALL traces of the old sealant otherwise it will not seal.
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