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06-25-2012 06:40 PM
CalebD
Re: Mechanic?

Glad to hear you got a hold of Will Sibley. He knows his Atomic 4 engines having owned one for many years. I gather that he is a pretty interesting fellow too.
He does some work on my friends boat down in Annapolis.
Like I said, he may not be cheap (no mechanic is) but he is thorough and honest (two rare qualities for a mechanic).
06-25-2012 12:52 PM
Nicklaus
Re: Mechanic?

[QUOTE=Nicklaus;888732]Well, problem fixed. [QUOTE]

Let me add a "knock on wood" to that out of an abundance of caution.
06-25-2012 12:51 PM
Nicklaus
Re: Mechanic?

Well, problem fixed. Had the delayed maiden sail this Saturday and went out again Sunday. Engine water temp never got over 150 degrees.

Sibley rethreaded the studs holding on the manifold and reinstalled them - adding a little JB Weld to stop any leaking. The water plate was rusted through and he replaced that as well. Also added a new set of spark plugs and tested the pressure. All for only about $400 more than the previous mechanic charged to remove, rebuild and never re-install the carburetor.

Saturday was great sailing. Pretty smooth seas and a nice steady wind. GPS registered 7 knots – which I think is pretty good for an old 27 footer.
05-07-2012 03:20 PM
BubbleheadMd
Re: Mechanic?

I knew that hole story was BS. Hopefull you'll be running soon.
05-05-2012 12:39 PM
Nicklaus
Re: Mechanic?

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Originally Posted by PorFin View Post
Now I'm even more confused
Sorry. Should have said stud in my above post. Not rod.

Spoke with Mr. Sibley yesterday. He said he used a scope to look for a hole too but couldn't find one. He told me that my mechanic might be better than he is, but that he is "pretty good."

He saw the rust around the aft stud and thought there might be a leak, but suggested using JB Weld to secure the back stud - and seal the leak - and replace the manifold.

So, hopefully that's all it is.
05-04-2012 12:05 AM
travlineasy
Re: Mechanic?

After looking at the posted photos I sincerely believe you have a broken stud--that's it! I didn't see any holes other than the manifold holes that should be there. Did you send the photos to Moyer Marine? If not, it would be a good idea to do it so they can access the problem in detail.

The biggest problem will be access, but if you can get a camera in there to take a closeup photo, you shouldn't have a problem getting a drill in there as well. As stated above, this isn't rocket science.

Good Luck,

Gary
05-03-2012 06:49 PM
CalebD
Re: Mechanic?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicklaus View Post

I'm of the opinion that my mechanic doesn't like finicky A4s Ė something I find odd considering the constant source of income (though likely headache) the Windsong has provided him.
I think that this is often the case with mechanics who are uncomfortable working on A4's. They'll look for any excuse, real or imagined, to say you need to replace it with a diesel.

Willis Sibley won't be cheap (no mechanic is) but he is honest. I hope he has time for you.
05-03-2012 04:56 PM
PorFin
Re: Mechanic?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicklaus View Post
Ha, yes. Saw those holes. Iím slightly confused as to why he would have even inserted a scope in the block to begin with since he initially started with just removing a broken rod. My hope is that the other mechanic can provide a fix for the season and then Iíll spend the summer reading up on how to perform a more extensive overhaul next winter.

I'm of the opinion that my mechanic doesn't like finicky A4s Ė something I find odd considering the constant source of income (though likely headache) the Windsong has provided him.
Now I'm even more confused

If your mechanic was working on a broken rod, then it's possible that you do in fact have a new, undesigned hole in your block. That would explain the need to get the manifold off which would explain the broken stud.
05-03-2012 04:30 PM
Nicklaus
Re: Mechanic?

Ha, yes. Saw those holes. I’m slightly confused as to why he would have even inserted a scope in the block to begin with since he initially started with just removing a broken rod. My hope is that the other mechanic can provide a fix for the season and then I’ll spend the summer reading up on how to perform a more extensive overhaul next winter.

I'm of the opinion that my mechanic doesn't like finicky A4s – something I find odd considering the constant source of income (though likely headache) the Windsong has provided him.
05-03-2012 02:58 PM
eherlihy
Re: Mechanic?

Yes, there IS a hole in the block. In fact, there are several. I can see them in your picture.

The four big ones are exhaust ports.

The two small ones are bolt, or more properly, threaded rod holes. One of them has a threaded rod stickin' out of it. The other appears to have a broken rod end stuck at the bottom.

Follow the advice in Gary's second paragraph;
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If that happens, the next step requires drilling the center of the bolt with a drill-bit that's slightly smaller than the bolt diameter. This takes a steady hand so you don't get off center. Once the bolt has a nice, clean, relatively deep hole in the center then you can insert an easy out. However, I would recommend again heating the block with a propane torch--this can make a world of difference.
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