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06-12-2012 12:04 AM
jackdale
Re: How short is too short

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Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
Why do you say that?
And what setup do you recommend different length mooring lines?
When attaching to a mooring with a ring and no pennant(s) I would run two bridles of different lengths. Each bridle would run from a cleat through a chock to the ring with a full round turn to the chock on the other side and to the other cleat.

That is my standard set up on the Parks mooring balls in the Gulf Islands.

In heavy weather, if one bridle wore through the other is a back up.
06-11-2012 11:18 PM
davidpm
Re: How short is too short

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Originally Posted by jackdale View Post

EDIT BTW with that setup the mooring lines should be same length.
Why do you say that?
And what setup do you recommend different length mooring lines?
06-04-2012 11:58 PM
SimonV
Re: How short is too short

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Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
Would you explain this comment please.
Did you have a problem with releasing the pennant?
Is it that you are reluctant to cut the pennant in an emergency?


In this case I own the mooring, would that matter to you.
It is my permanent summer place so by definition I have to trust it. It will be the lee shore a good percentage of the time.
The mooring buoy was a public one and I was reluctant to cut it but did in the end. As I sail around the barrier reef where there are many places where anchoring is prohibited or due to depth impossible I do use the public mooring where available. and would rather cut my line than the expensive pendants on the bouys.
06-04-2012 11:21 PM
davidpm
Re: How short is too short

I had a thought that might be the best of both ideas.
How about a heavy line with the blight at the loop of one pennant and the two legs through the chocks then both cleat hitched to the one cleat.
The same thing with the other pennant to the other cleat.

Now I'm concerned that their will be chafe at the blight pennant loop so how about a cow hitch.
Would this be the very best setup?
06-04-2012 09:47 AM
davidpm
Re: How short is too short

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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
- I dont...Id rather be annoying

davidpm. In the setup you mentioned did it the OP have one line running through the loop of the other, which would causing abrasion or did I envison what you described the wrong way
A couple posts up I have a picture.
Two lines through both pennant loops.
One pretty good one just an old dock line.
06-04-2012 09:45 AM
davidpm
Re: How short is too short

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Originally Posted by SimonV View Post
I never take a mooring buoy pennant on board. i always use me own line through the pennant eye. years ago I did use the wet soggy eye of a mooring buoy pennant over the mooring cleat an got caught on a lee shore in a storm. since that time i use and recomend you use your own line.
Would you explain this comment please.
Did you have a problem with releasing the pennant?
Is it that you are reluctant to cut the pennant in an emergency?


In this case I own the mooring, would that matter to you.
It is my permanent summer place so by definition I have to trust it. It will be the lee shore a good percentage of the time.
06-04-2012 06:58 AM
SimonV
Re: How short is too short

I never take a mooring buoy pennant on board. i always use me own line through the pennant eye. years ago I did use the wet soggy eye of a mooring buoy pennant over the mooring cleat an got caught on a lee shore in a storm. since that time i use and recomend you use your own line.
06-04-2012 02:50 AM
chef2sail
Re: How short is too short

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I do use a web-based spell checker.
- I dont...Id rather be annoying

davidpm. In the setup you mentioned did it the OP have one line running through the loop of the other, which would causing abrasion or did I envison what you described the wrong way
06-04-2012 12:22 AM
jackdale
Re: How short is too short

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Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
I switched to this way.
The mooring lines go directly to the cleats.
The mooring lines seem a little short but otherwise it seems like a good solution.

What do you think.
The distance shot show how it looks in about 10-15 knots.
Maybe it is OK.
Through the chocks is better. The chafe protection is excellent.

EDIT BTW with that setup the mooring lines should be same length.
06-04-2012 12:19 AM
jackdale
Re: How short is too short

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Originally Posted by davidpm View Post
This is the old way.
I don't like the way the anchor bracket can chafe when the boat sits at an angle which it seems to want to do.
I don't like that even though I have two mooring lines I don't get their benefit.
I agree the chafing possibilities are scary.

Two mooring lines means that if one fails the other is backup. I would have the back up line longer. I would also use a full round turn, i.e. twice through the pennant, to reduce chafe at that point. You might also use chafe protection.
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