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08-05-2012 09:58 AM
Sabre Dan
Re: Buying a Sabre 28 - questions

Because of the site rules, I have taken the listing off of sailnet, but if you are interested, give me your e-mail and I will contact you directly.
Dan
sumptionlaw@aol.com
08-05-2012 12:53 AM
dubon
Re: Buying a Sabre 28 - questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabre Dan View Post
Genki:
If you are still looking for a Sabre 28, I have one for sale CHEAP!! Contact me here and I'll give you details.
Dan
sounds interesting.still have it for sale?
07-03-2012 11:09 AM
hellosailor
Re: Buying a Sabre 28 - questions

You should probably thank the original owner for being such a far-sighted fellow.<G> I don't know if people opt for raw water because it is cheaper and they figure it won't be their problem, or if they really just don't understand the problem. Like the masses of car owners who never think of air or oil. Or maybe, they're all racers looking to save a few pounds in the engine bay. (Yeah, that MUST be it.<G>)
07-03-2012 09:50 AM
Sabre Dan
Re: Buying a Sabre 28 - questions

Thanks for the very accurate info, Sailor. My 1980 has the Volvo engine, but the raw water only cools the fresh water through the heat exchanger, and never enters the engine itself,. only fresh water courses through the engine. The only point of corrosion would be the heat exchanger, and this is easily checked and can be replaced or recored witjhout too much difficulty. MY 1980 has the added lower shrouds to eliminate the mast pumping problem. My traveler is still located behind the helm, and moving it would be a good upgrade.
07-02-2012 11:42 AM
hellosailor
Re: Buying a Sabre 28 - questions

Molly-
Practical Sailor reviewed the boat & gave it high praise, a long time ago and in their "Practical boat Buying" volume 1.
Among the differences the "later" models (they don't indicate Marks) had added lower forward shrouds to reduce mast pumping. Changed the mast base to add fittings to make it easier to lead all lines aft. And eventually moved the traveler to the cabin top in 1982, apparently to preserve the helmsman's head.

In 1976 the forward anchor well was added. Pre-1982, the top of the ice box was not well insulated lathough the box itself was. post-82, the top was also insulated.

Base engine was the A4 with a Volvo diesel option, then both were replaced by the MD7A and finally a Westerbeke in 1981. So if you don't want Volvo, you will be getting a 1981+ boat or a repowered one.

Those Volvos are capable of running a very long time, but ANY raw-water-cooled engine that has been used in salt water all this time my have extensive salt corrosion and literally be rusting away inside. Typically you can check that by removing the cooling pump or somtimes the exhaust manifold itself, in order to see if the engine has been eaten out. That's about the only thing that really will kill them.

As compared to Westerbleak [sic] sho never really BUILD engines, they assemble parts supplied by the lowest bidder. So one "WB" may be a British Leyland engine while another comes from Japan...some sleuthing may be required.

Basically they give the boat a gold star, and differences (moving the traveler, insulating the icebox, adding the shrouds) are all fairly simple changes an owner can make. Choice of engine and anchor well are about the only things you'd want to make sure were already done, and it sounds like "post 82 boat" would make that all happen for you.

I never met a Sabre I didn't like, or find some really small feature that tipped me off, the folks who were building it, spent plenty of their own time appreciating boats.
07-02-2012 07:18 AM
Sabre Dan
Re: Buying a Sabre 28 - questions

As far as I can tell, the major difference is in the configuration of the head; In the mark III, the sink is on the port side with the toilet. In the mark II, which I own, the sink is on the starboard side by itself. What price ranges are you seeing?
06-28-2012 05:29 PM
mmorchardo
Re: Buying a Sabre 28 - questions

I am also looking at Sabre 28's. Can anyone give me pros and cons of Mark I vs II vs III other than the specs I can find online? I am familiar with the various engine configurations and am trying to stay away from the Volvo but would like to know if there was any change in sailing performance through the 3 models.
Thanks,
Molly
06-19-2012 08:58 PM
timmbob
Re: Buying a Sabre 28 - questions

Hey Dan, I saw your post to the forum about having a Sabre 28 for sale. Is it still available? I have the Sabre 28 on my short list.

Thanks,
Tim
06-02-2012 02:11 PM
Sabre Dan
Re: Buying a Sabre 28 - questions

Genki:
If you are still looking for a Sabre 28, I have one for sale CHEAP!! Contact me here and I'll give you details.
Dan
05-25-2011 09:03 PM
hellosailor You might want a surveyor's opinion. If the door (presumably to the forward cabin?) isn't closing, it might have been rehung incorrectely, but why would it have been rehung at all?

It is also common for boats with problems to "warp" and then doors don't close. Could be the chainplates were part of the problem, shrouds too tight or loose, stays too tight, boat not on stands properly, mast step shifted or repaired...it is very possible that the door won't close properly because something has shifted. Whether that's important, or correctable, or a dealbreaker, is something you probably should get a professional opinion on.

Overall though, Sabre is a top line boat.
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