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07-17-2012 05:34 PM
mallemang
Re: Long time dreamer, recent sailer

absolutely I found the manual here: Chrysler Sailors
select the tab... documentation->chrysler->14'dagger->manual and voila...there it is!

I have a friend who works at a cnc machine shop and I'll get him to fabricate it out of 5/16" aluminum stock. I already order two of the 6" inspection ports from these guys.... https://www.apsltd.com/


Mark
07-17-2012 05:12 PM
greentree8
Re: Long time dreamer, recent sailer

Yep, that's what mine looked like too I think. However I don't think it's critical. Would you mind sharing that manual you found? Or where did you get it? I have been having a hard time finding any info on the Dagger...
07-17-2012 02:17 PM
mallemang
Re: Long time dreamer, recent sailer

I found a manual online and in the attached snippet it looks like a flat hook...and also shows that halyard coming out the bottom...that's what mine looks like.
07-17-2012 01:55 PM
greentree8
Re: Long time dreamer, recent sailer

Oh, also, I can send specs on the dagger..I have the original that I restored...
07-17-2012 01:29 PM
greentree8
Re: Long time dreamer, recent sailer

Back on page 1 there is a small pic of my wooden step...no hole in the bottom for the halyard, mine actually attaches to a cleat on the side of the mast, and then I bring the rest down around the mast to the figure 8 thingy and wrap it there for security.

I think the inside part where you sit is called the cockpit, well, it's really just for your feet right? Yeah, you have to bail by hand...although I think there is an aftermarket auto bailer you can install...I have them on my other sailboat and they work great when you are moving pretty fast through the water. But as far as this boat...that drain plug in the transom/stern part is just to drain any stray water that gets inside the hull...it really shouldn't because it's a "sealed" hull, but probably only for the first few years of the boat!

I'll post more pics of my step and repairs...If i forget, send me a reminder post.
07-17-2012 12:23 PM
mallemang
Re: Long time dreamer, recent sailer

that's great that you found another one. If you wouldn't mind please post some pictures of the new mast step (and of your repair work). It's gotta have a pin or something to go inside the mast bottom... also it has to let the main halyard run free also out of a hole in the bottom of the mast. also, if you found any other references for the Dagger I'd appreciate that too. another question...the drain hole in the stern, is that only for draining the hollow between inner and outer hull? the only way i can drain the "person" area (don't know what that part of the boat is called...where we sit :-) " is to bail it out. thanks so much for your reply.
07-17-2012 12:08 PM
greentree8
Re: Long time dreamer, recent sailer

I actually ended up finding another dagger on CL and it had a new mast step and mast. So, one sits at my sister's house for her kids, and the other sits here at my house...I did end up fashioning a step out of two pieces of oak...about 1/2 thick each, one with a hole the shape of the mast, and the other has a bottom shaped to the recess in the deck. I have not tried it yet...some how some of the shroud adjusters are missing their pins...anyway, let me know how I can help...I have done a lot of glass work/repair on this and cut an inspection port. It's amazing how much lighter the boat is now that it's all dried up inside. Could barely lift it with 2 people at first, now I can easily lift it with 2 guys, and move it around with 1.
07-17-2012 10:39 AM
mallemang
Re: Long time dreamer, recent sailer

Hello, may I join in on your conversation? I also have what i think is the same (or very similar) chrysler dagger also with a missing mast step. It has been sitting in my back yard on a trailer for 3 years. The hull is in good shape. I think I'll try making a temporary step out of wood so that I can check out the rigging etc. and determine if anything is missing. I suppose the reason I haven't tried harder is that I do have a hobbie cat holder 12 that I sail along the shores of lake superior.
06-18-2012 04:22 PM
brehm62
Re: Long time dreamer, recent sailer

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Originally Posted by greentree8 View Post
One question though...if I used cardboard, that would just stay inside the boat? Would that be a problem with getting wet and rotting? Is that just not an issue?
I have some inside my boat. But I suppose if you were concerned about it you could use a thin piece of plastic instead. Sometimes you have to bend them to fit them through the hole. But they can't be so thin that they easily bow out. Milk jug is probably too thin. Maybe a piece off of a laundry detergent jug. You can experiment and see. With mine I first tried luaun but I couldn't flex it enough to make it fit the curve. So, then I ended up using a piece of corrugated cardboard.

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Fantastic explanation of the process by the way...It finally dawned on me and I think this will work just great!
This is where I got it from. The second method for a single sided patch: Fixing Fiberglass Canoes and Boats

However, he is talking about patching a small hole. The main difficulty for me was finding something stiff enough to span the large hole without bowing out while also being flexible enough to bend with the curve.
06-18-2012 04:00 PM
greentree8
Re: Long time dreamer, recent sailer

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If the gap is larger then you need a backing piece. Typically you use a piece of cardboard (larger than the hole) with a layer fabric over it. Then you run two strings though it near the edges. You wet the fabric with epoxy and then slide it inside the hole. You use the strings to hold it up against the back. After the epoxy hardens you have to trim off the strings and then you have a backing piece to lay the next layers of fabric on. Again, you normally bevel the edges so that it gets wider as you come out. This gives the edges more surface contact but it also helps the patch resist pushing in since it would be wider than the hole. You build up as many layers as you need to match the thickness.
Ahh! Yes, I see now...That's exactly what I need to do...One question though...if I used cardboard, that would just stay inside the boat? Would that be a problem with getting wet and rotting? Is that just not an issue? Fantastic explanation of the process by the way...It finally dawned on me and I think this will work just great!
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