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Interesting Sailboats

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Sirius 32, Sirius 35

THE OBJECT OF THIS THREAD:

Interesting sailboats in production and available on the new boat market (only boats with modern designs, meaning that the boats still in production but made with old designs are out). Recent designs out of production are also admissible.

Modern boat designs and modern one off, if interesting.

Classical boats and traditional boats.

Small cruisers (less than 35ft)

Seezunge 27ft: PG1-PT9

Hanse 325: PG19-PT185;

Presto 30 : 33-326; 33-327; 34-331; 34-333; 55-543; 55-544;

Tess Yachts: 37-366; 38-373;

Tess 28 Magnum: 37-369; 38-371;

Delphia 28: 38-373;

Vancouver 27/28 : 42-412; 72-717;

Cruisers between 35ft and 49ft


Catalina 355 : 31-306;

RM sailboats: PG5-PT41; 5-42

RM1050: PG5-PT46; 5-47; 5-48;

RM 1060: PG8-PT77; 8-78; 8-79; 8-80; 9-81; 30-295; 40-400; 79-786;

RM 1200: PG9-PT84; 9-85; 19-184; 20-191; 20-192; 41-404; 42-414; 42-418; 43-425; 43-426; 69-688;

RM 1350: PG9-PT82; 55-549; 95-943;

Morris Yachts: PG7-PT61

Bavaria 36: PG19-PT188; 19-190; 20-196;

Bavaria 40: PG10-PT95; 28-278; 29-281; 29-282; 29-283; 29-286; 32-316; 36-356; 51-502; 51-507; 52-518; 53-527; 53-532;

Bavaria 40s: 69-685; 78-775;

Bavaria 45: PG10-PT96; 19-190;

Rustler Yachts: PG11-PT104;

Jeanneau 409: PG11-PT103: 11-106; 30-298; 30-299; 36-356; 51-502; 51-504; 51-505; 51-509; 52-513; 52-514; 52-515; 52-516; 53-527; 54-532; 57-564; 57-570; 58-571; 58-580; 59-581; 59-583; 59-585; 62-614; 74-739; 91-906;

Jeanneau 439: 40-396; 40-397; 59-584; 59-585; 96-956;

Hanse Yachts: 16-154; 16-156; 16-158;

Hanse 400: 81-804;

Bluewater cruising yachts: 21-206

Beneteau Oceanis 37 : 31-306; 31-308; 31-309; 32-314; 55-541;

XC 38: 36-356; 96-954;

Diva 38: 39-386;

Diva 35: 40-391;

Dufour 405: 62-614;

Defline 43: 63-622

Walkabout 43: 93-923; 93-925; 93-927;

Small performance cruisers (less than 35ft)


Performance 32ft test: 29-87;

Sun Fast 3200: PG4-PT33; 4-34; 4-36; 30-293;

Elan 210: 70-691; 70-696; 78-779; 79-781;

Elan 310: PC7-PT64; 7-69; 8-71; 36-356; 41-408;

Quest 33: PG7-PT62

Olea 32: 25-243; 25-245;

First 27.7: 38-373; 38-380; 39-382;

First 30: 30-295; 39-356; 41-408; 55-545; 55-546;

Comet 26: 34-340; 35-345; 35-350; 36-353;

Pacer 30: 36-357;

Django 7.7: 40-399;

Vivace/Evosion 34: 45-442; 45-446; 45-445; 45-446; 45-447; 45-448; 45-449; 45-450; 46-458; 46-460;

Finn Flyer 34: 46-451; 46-453; 60-593;

Salona 34: 46-457;

Heol 7.4: 63-621; 63-622;

Azuree 33: 87-867; 91-902; 91-904;

JPK 10.10: 88-877 ; 88-880; 89-883;

Performance cruisers (between 35ft and 49ft)

Pogo 10.50: PG2-PT20; 3-27; 3-28; 3-30; 4-35; 5-50; 6-51; 6-52; 6-60; 11-101; 11-107; 11-110; 43-425; 44-440; 87-861; 87-867;

Pogo 12.50: PG13-PT125; 20-198; 20-199; 22-214; 27-264; 27-265; 27-269; 32-317; 32-319; 43-425; 43-426; 43-428; 44-432; 44-437; 44-439; 55-546; 55-547; 82-812; 84-831; 87-870;

Este 40: 89-890; 90-893; 90-899;

A35: PG5-PT42; 5-44; 66-660;

A40RC: 92-914;

Hammerhead 35: 64-645

Opium 39: PG5-PT42; 9-85; 9-89; 13-125; 22-220; 22-221; 43-426; 55-547; 86-857;

Aerodyne 35: PG7-PT62

Elan 350: PG7-PT64; 13-24; 13-126; 13-127; 13-128; 14-132; 18-178; 26-255; 36-356; 40-398; 41-405; 57-564; 59-589; 60-591; 72-711; 73-724; 74-738;

Elan 380: 23-223; 25-249; 26-256; 40-398; 59-589; 97-962;

Elan 410: 32-316; 79-784;

JPK 110: PG9-PT85; 10-91

Olea 44: PG10-PT100; 27-268;

Olea Yachts: 25-247;

Dufour 40e: Pg13-Pt125; 32-316; 55-547; 56-558; 56-559; 57-561; 57-562; 57-563; 59-586; 59-588,

Salona 37: 36-359; 41-406;

Salona 41: PG15-PT141; 15-145; 32-316; 36-356; 40-398; 54-538; 57-569; 78-778; 80-796; 80-798; 97-965;

Salona 42: PG15-PT145; 36-359; 40-398; 93-929; 94-932;

Cigale 16: PG15-PT148; 16-152; 17-161; 55-549; 63-625;

Cigale 14: PG17-PT163; 55-549;

Santa Cruz 43: PG17-PT169

Sydney Yachts: PG18-PT171; 18-175;

Sydney GTS 37: 43-423;

Sydney GTS 43: PG18-PT173;

Winner 12.20: PG20-193;

First 40: 31-304; 32-313; 32-316; 35-344; 36-354; 55-546; 55-547;

First 35: 36-356

Dehler 41: 30-296;

Dehler 44: 79-785;

Dehler 45: 36-356; 79-785;

Luffe 40.04: 30-300; 31-301; 31-303;

XP 38: 56-533; 56-544; 56-555; 67-622;

XP 44: 33-325;

Pacer 430: 36-357;

Pacer 376: 36-357; 66-652; 69-683;

Faurby 424: 36-360; 37-361; 37-363; 37-365;

Comfortina 39: 40-395;

J 133: 43-426; 63-620

J 111: 100-993;

Maxi 11: 99-982;

Arcona yachts: 46-456;

Arcona 410: 47-467; 47-468; 47-469; 48-471;

Arcona 430: 48-472;

Arcona 460: 50-495

Finngulf yachts: 46-456;

Varianta 44: 60-594; 60-595; 60-596; 60-597; 60-598; 64-639;

Imagine 53: 63-628;

Zou 40.2: 63-620

Ker 39: 68-676;

Finn-Flyer 42: 77-762;

Azuree 40: 85-842;

Loft 40: 85-848; 85-852;

Vivace 35: 90-895;

Sailing boats over 49ft

Zeydon 60 : PG 12-119;

JP 54: PG18-PT172;

Salona 60: 70-695;

Stadships: PG20-PT193; 20-195;

Pogo 50: 32-318; 32-319;

X-50: 54-537;

Murtic 52: 54-537;

Decksaloons and pilot house sailing boats

Sirius 32: PG1-PT1

Sirius 35: PG1-PT1; 1-10; 2-18; 50-491; 50-492; 60-559; 60-599;

Sirius 31: PG1-PT5; 2-17; 36-356;

Regina 35: 48-478;

Regina 40: PG11-PT104; 49-481; 49-483;

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Luffe 43DS: PG12-PT111; 12-115; 50-494;

Noordkaper 40: PG14-pt139;

Noordkaper yachts: PG16-PT155

Nordship 36: 30-297; 49-482;

Nordship 38: 49-482; 49-490;

Paulo's pilot house I: 38-376; 39-381; 39-383; 39-384;

Paulo's pilot house II: 69-682

Lyman & Morse 45: 38-379;

CR 38DS: 48-477; 48-478;

CR 40DS: 48-476; 48-478; 48-479; 50-494; 50-496; 50-497; 50-498;

Arcona 40DS: 50-494;

Racers

Figaro 2:pG4-PT36; 4-37; 5-42; 6-52; 6-53; 6-55; 6-56

VOR 70: PG16-PT160; 17-187

Farr 400: 67-661

Soto 40: 96-952;

Lifting keel/centerboarder

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Allures 45: PG10-PT93; 100-996;

Allures yachts: 25-248;

OVNI 425: 23-228;

OVNI 395 : 68-679; 69-690;

J 108: 67-661

Atlantic 43: 68-67

Boreal 44: 97-970; 98-974;

Multihulls till 34ft

Several Trimarans: 28-273;

Multihulls with 34ft and over

Dragonfly yachts: 26-257;

Dragonfly 35: 26-258; 27-261; 27-262;

Dragonfly 1200: 56-551;

Corsair 37: 28-276;

Farrier 39: 28-277;

Challenge 37: 28-278

Hammerhead 34: 29-385;

Hammerhead 54: 29-288; 30-292;

Trimax 10.80: 29-285;

Sig 45: 54-534; 54-539; 54-540;

Gunboat: 56-551

Fusion: 56-551;

Outremer: 56-551;

Tournier: 56-511;

Classical and Traditional boats

Jclass boats: 54-537;

Tofinou 12: 71-703;

Folck boat: 73-727;

Puffin Yachts: PG14-PT135; 14-138; 16-155;

Bestwind 50: PG12-PT116; 14-123;

Bestevaer 53: PG12-PT116;

Bestevaer yachts: PG16-PT155

Cape George 36: 41-410; 42-412;

Marieholm 33 : 42-412;

This list is not actualized. Please use the advanced search engine of the thread with the name of the model and builder. It works, most of the time.

(actualized till PG100) and it will be no more because that gives a lot of work (500 pages now).

Instead I am actualizing the titles and with the right title the thread search engine (not the one on the top of the page bit the one much below that says search thread) on its advanced option works quite well.

Hello,

Melrna posts on Miami Boat show and the comments of Smackdady about the interest of that thread lead me to think that perhaps I could share more information about sailboats I know and find interesting.

I am interested in boat design (interior and sailing performance) and I go each year at least to one of the main European Boat shows and that means basically Dusseldorf, Paris or Hamburg. On these shows you have the opportunity not only to visit the boats of the main and medium size builders but you have also the opportunity to visit the boats of small and sometime family shipyards.

Normally they build very good sailboats and sometimes they have been doing that for decades. The boats are hugely appreciated by their faithful customers but because they don't advertise their boats and there are very few on the used boat market, they pass unnoticed by the majority of the sail community.

The visit to these boats is a very rewarding experience because they are made with passion by true boat lovers and because when you talk to the guy that is on the boat, you are not talking with a dealer, that many times doesn't know much about boats, but with the builder, or the designer.

Even if you are not a buyer they will have real pleasure in talking with someone that really appreciates and understands their work. Those guys really believe in what they are doing and they do it the best way they can, no matter the cost. In a word, they are in love with what they are doing.
Of course, these boats have to be expensive.

This thread will be mainly about these boats, as a way of letting you know about these gems. Let's see if you are interested. I will not post much. If you want to know more you have just to participate and make questions.

The first one it will be the "Sirius". I have had the pleasure to visit several times their boats and to talk with the builders (father and son).

These boats have the best interiors you can find, or at least that I have seen. Not only the quality, but the design and ergonomy are fantastic. You really won't believe you are in a 32ft boat. Just incredible and amazing; Have a look at it:

Sirius-Werft Plön | Forecabin | 32 DS for 2 forecabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Owner´s cabin | 32 DS 4-berth comfort owner´s cabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Workshop | 32 DS for 2 workshop

Now that the son is in charge they have modernized the outside look of the new boats, they look fantastic not only inside but also outside. The boats sail well and they have clients as far as Japan.

Sirius-Werft Plön | Versions of decks house | You have the choice

Another interesting point is the way they develop new boats. They work with the clients to collect suggestions on the shape and design of the boats. A truly interesting affair, between passionate clients and passionate builders.

Sirius-Werft Plön | 35 DS | Philosophy

Take a good look at their interesting site and if you find the boat interesting, please let me know, I can add some information.

Sirius-Werft Plön | english | Welcome at website of Sirius-Werft Plön

Regards

Paulo
 
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#1,908 · (Edited)
New boat: The OVNI evolution 52.

That's a true revolution on OVNI, the most famous bluewater French boat. The new series are still aluminum centerboarders but they have abandoned their overall conservative design to present a true modern line based with the hull based on the shape of solo Open boats, a Marc Lombard design.

Also for the first time they present the possibility of a completely closed dog house an ugly one in my opinion. But if we don't consider that this is a good looking boat that for the first time show lines that are not very far away from its more sportive cousin, the Cigale 16.

Some interesting solutions: The wheel can be on the usual place or more at the center, inside the dog house, the boat has a garage for a dinghy with 3.10m and utilizes the same interior solution as the Benetau sense, meaning that the boat has no properly aft cabins (just a very small one to sleep while sailing, I mean for an eventual skipper) and that all the space is used for the garage and storage.

The announced price is around 500 000€ and that don't seem much for an aluminium boat of this size.

A 47 footer will also be made along the same lines.















Of course, in what regards the Cigale 16, that is just a bit longer and is also made by Alubat and designed by Marc Lombard, this boat just seems more like a Cigale than the previous OVNI but the differences between the two boats in what regards sailing are HUGE. Just to give you an idea this one weights 16 000 kg, the Cigale 16, 10 750kg. Both boats have about the same sail area (the Cigale has a bit more) and the Cigale has less 5 250kg. You can imagine the difference specially in what regards going downwind over hull speed and sailing with light winds;)

But if the Alubat 52 will be slow if compared with a Cigale if we compare it with the Benetau Sense 50 the story will be other: The Sense is smaller weights about the same ( less 700 kg) but has less 13 m2 of sail and that and a smaller LWL will made the Ovni faster in all points of sail except probably close upwind and of course with the possibility to avoid bad weather staying on anchor in very shallow waters.

....
 
#1,910 · (Edited)
For the ones that are interested in understanding what is the fastest boat to sail solo, I mean if you are just a good sailor and not a professional one, the Transaquadra is on again. They left Madeira to the Carib, now with all boats together.

Many boats close to the leadership that is for the moment on the solo category for a A35 and on the duo, for a Jeanneau SF 32.

The leader on solo is French but on duo it is an Italian team that is leading. That should piss a lot of French:D

Transquadra 2011

As we have saw on the first race, the Sun Fast 32 and the Archambault 31 (not to mention the 35) are faster with a short crew then boats with a bigger rating like several First 40,7, several Grand Soleil 40, a Confortina 42, a Sun Odyssey 49, a Sunfast 40 and a 37 Grand Soleil Race.

Nice images from a JPK 10.10 that is now in 2th place on the solo cat.

 
#1,912 ·
I guess that everybody know the Hydroptere the fastest sailboat on the planet and contrary to some rocket sailboats that can only sail fast on flat sea and protected waters, this animal is an offshore boat.

But perhaps you don't know that some of you, I mean Americans, will have a possibility to see it flying: The boat is going to be shipped to America to try to beat an offshore record, Los Angels to Honolulu, next Mars.

The boat is a creation of a group of passionate people but most of all an Alain Thébault dream.

Here is the story of a dreamer and is dream made true:



2011 - l'Hydroptère - L'histoire d'un rêve - The story of a dream (8 min) from l'Hydroptère - Official page on Vimeo.
 
#1,913 ·
I guess that everybody know the Hydroptere the fastest sailboat on the planet and contrary to some rocket sailboats that can only sail fast on flat sea and protected waters, this animal is an offshore boat.

But perhaps you don't know that some of you, I mean Americans, will have a possibility to see it flying: The boat is going to be shipped to America to try to beat an offshore record, Los Angels to Honolulu, next Mars.
The Hydroptère is indeed a wonderful record breaking flying machine. But as Paulo stated very accurately, unlike the fragile experimental constructions used on flat water speed tracks, it's a very accomplished concept that has already proven its extraordinary potential extensively.

The fact that it will now sail across the Pacific is another milestone in Alain ThĂ©bault's project, which started more than 30 years ago with the dream of a certain Éric Tabarly…
Of course foils are now common on racing machines even offshore, but it seems the Hydroptère project will continue to be at the edge of research.

After breaking the so-called "sailing sound barrier" of 50 knots, Alain Thébault and his team have set themselves another incredible challenge: crossing the Atlantic in less than 72 hours. Therefore a new flying machine is to be built in 2013: the LIBRYD. The architects are VPLP, who just conquered the Jules Verne trophy with Banque Populaire V.

Alain Thebault

Best regards,

Eric
 
#1,914 · (Edited)
Hi Eric, thanks for posting:).

Yes they are studying a big bird and I hope these difficult times won't cut their funding. The LIBRYD will be bigger, will have a rigid sail and on the back, instead of having a a foil on the central hull will have two, one on each ama.

We can see here the two boats, well the three because they have already a small one that is a sort of laboratory for the Libryd, the Hydropter.ch, that sails on the Geneve lake and is beating records. The boat has already sail at almost 40K and can maintain sustained speeds near 30K. Remember that this is a very small boat. Look at the picture:





The Libryd:











Regards

Paulo
 
#1,916 ·
On the Transquadra suprinsigly the two first boats are Solo boats, I mean the two classes mixed. The Duos are not keeping up with the best solos:eek:

A Dam good job by these two sailors, one in a A 35 another one on the JPK 10.10 the one that we saw on a movie some posts back.

Finally the movie from the race start: Lots of nice and interesting boats;)


depart mer por overlapprod
 
#1,918 · (Edited)
Hei Eric, congratulation:) Your boat, the Pogo 12.50 was elected European performance sailboat of 2012:D First time for a Pogo.

The other European boats of the year:

On the Family cruising class: Benetau Oceanis 45

On the Luxury class: Oyster 625 (that boat with a great interior that I have posted not many posts before).

On the special class: the Esse 7.50

Movie:

Die Siegeryachten des Jahres 2012 - Yacht TV

and don't miss this movie, with the best images of the sea tests:

http://tv.yacht.de/video/EYOTY-2012...r-Sea-Trials/bb6a518d51b17fa0f3e391d07d6d5b7f

Regards

Paulo
 
#1,924 ·
Hei Eric, congratulation:) Your boat, the Pogo 12.50 was elected European performance sailboat of 2012:D First time for a Pogo.
Thanks a lot, Paulo.
It's good to know the Pogo has been appreciated by an international jury. But their judgement only confirms the thorough and accurate analysis that has already been made by all of you on this thread.

Best regards,

Eric
 
#1,919 ·
Regarding the reasons that lead the main European boat magazines to choose them among all the nominees :

Performance cruiser - POGO 12.50 :

The light and sparsely appointed Pogo surprisingly won out over more established competitors.

Even though it's not a boat for the masses, she impressed the jury with her concept and fantastic performance potential.

Reaching in a 25-knot breeze under jib and a double reef in the main, the boat surpassed 17 knots of top speed while remaining safely under control at all times.

There's plenty of space below with all the necessities for a family cruise, so she's quite the long-distance flyer.

LOA: 12.50 m; Beam: 4.50 m; Sail Area: 107 sq.m.; , DSPL: 5.5 t; Price: 221.410 euros.


Family cruiser - BENETEAU OCEANIS 45 :

The Oceanis 45 persuaded the jury with her concept and a combination of innovative details such as a well-balanced sail plan, a rig that's stepped farther aft, a Targa bar above the companionway that keeps the clutter out of the cockpit and improves the sheeting angle of the main, wide and gently descending companionway steps, a large and well-organized cockpit, and a stern hatch that doubles as a swim platform when lowered, among others.

LOA: 13.50 m; Beam: 4.49 m, Sail Area: 100 sq.m.; DSPL: 9.6 t; Price: 203.370 euros.


Luxury cruiser - OYSTER 625 :

This 19-meter Oyster 625 , a luxury yacht designed by Rob Humphreys, had to fend off very tough competition in very difficult conditions.
During the test in the North Sea it was howling with 50 knots and more, but it was no problem for the Oyster 625, which stayed comparatively dry and under control.

Bright, posh, and spacious belowdecks, there was no creaking noise to notice, not even in four-meter waves.

It was downright difficult to find flaws. Although the realm of "mega" really starts above 80 feet, the Oyster, in many ways, resembles a super yacht.

LOA: 19.37 m; Beam: 5.44 m; Sail Area: 236 sq.m.; DSPL: 33.5 t; Draft: 2.80 m (alt. 2.15 m); Price: 3,070,200 euros.


Special yachts - Esse 750 :

Small but completely carbon, the Esse 750 has a hull, rig, and bowsprit all made from the magic fiber. The expensive construction material drives up the price of the Esse, but it also makes her light, strong, and fast.

Designed by Umberto Felci, the boat, which is built in Switzerland near Lake Zurich, is a delight to sail: precision and speed.

The 750's helm is perfectly balanced, she can be easily handled by a crew of one or two, and going to weather is a thrill. It's the perfect fit for connoisseurs and experts who are looking for something special.

A one-design for going full tilt.

LOA: 7.50 m; Beam: 2.05 m; Sail Area: 35 sq.m; DSPL: 960 kg; Price: 63,070 euros.


Read more: European Sailboat of the Year Awards, 2012 | Boats.com Blog
 
#1,920 · (Edited)
Well, they have not an election for the Naval Architect of the year and it would be very interesting if they have.

This year I would say that the one that would probably win would be Finot/Conq: Two of the 4 winning boats are designed by them (Pogo 12.50 and Oceanis 45).

And those were not the only interesting projects they have done in 2011 and not all big boats but certainly very interesting boats:



I know they are not one NA but a team of two, like in several leading NA cabinets, and they team together for many years, since Finot found a young guy playing with the first canting keel (Conq) and invited him to work with him. Conq was already at the time a young NA and an accomplished racer.

Jean-Marie Finot is not even formally a NA, just an Architect that had find and interest in boats and end up dedicating to them almost all his work, that has been a benchmark in what regards boat design all along the second half of the XX century and in the beginning of this one. I have a big admiration for him and also for Conq that have keep up with its master and fried.

70 year's old Finot is also a sailor and a cruiser and has a wife that likes to cruise and the fact that his cruising boat is a Pogo 10.50 says much about the kind of sailor he is. Well, to say the truth is Pogo is a modified one...to be faster:D

There are around the world about 30 000 boats made by the designs of Finot/Conq. That's quite a number;)

Have a look at their site:

Groupe Finot, yacht designers

finot-conq architectes navals

....
 
#1,921 ·
Some more interesting information about the election, testing and the boats:

Every year up to 100 new sailing boats emerge on the European market, but only four yards are being honored with the "European yacht of the year" award.

"This year's tests in Ijmuiden/Holland and Barcelona were characterized by a lot of wind. During the boat tests, storms of up to 50 knots hit the North Sea, resulting in waves up to four meters high.

And over the Catalanian coast, winds blew with up to 6 Beaufort, creating a chaotic sea. There had never been such winds at the test dates before, a real endurance test for the boats, that all of them mastered well, some even exceptional.", says Jochen Rieker, editor-in-chief of YACHT.

"In general, more emphasis was put on sailing performance. Not just the winners but every yacht we tested was fun to sail.

Furthermore, there is a very consequent development in several directions, such as comfort in the category of family-cruisers, or speed and fun in the category of performance-cruisers and special-yachts.

All in all it was a great year", Rieker resumes.


"European Yacht of the Year" in the category of Family Cruiser went to: Oceanis 45 (Bénéteau)

Nominees:

Bénéteau Oceanis 45
Dufour 445 Grand'Large
Elan 210
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 379
RM 1060.

"European Yacht of the Year" in the category of Luxury Cruiser went to:
Oyster 625 (Oyster Marine)

Nominees:

Amel 64
Bénéteau Sense 50
Bestewind 50
Hallberg-Rassy 64
Oyster 625.

"European Yacht of the Year" in the category of Performance Cruiser went to:
Pogo 12.50 (Pogo-Structures)

Nominees:

Dehler 41
Grand Soleil 50
J 111
Pogo 12.50
XP-44.

„European Yacht of the Year" in the category of Special Yachts went to:
Esse 750 (Josef Schuchters Sportboot AG)

Nominees:

Dinamica RS 940
Eagle 44
Esse 750
Keus 22
Tarac 33.
 
#1,925 · (Edited)
Well, at least on this thread we all knew the Pogo 12.50 is a great boat but it is truly impressive that its sailing charachteristics have impressed more all those experienced sailors than the ones from the Xp 44 that is also an incredible fast and interesting boat.

Chapeau, as the French say:D

Changing subject, forever beautiful: LULWORTH



and another beauty: FIREFLY



Really beautiful. I don't know why old racing boats are so elegant. A car from the 20's or an airplane can be beautiful but not as elegant as a boat, not by far.

Regards

Paulo
 
#1,926 · (Edited)
This year I did not went to Dusseldorf, I went instead to Italy looking for a used boat, what a drag:(. I miss the boats the ambiance and the beer, yes Dusseldorf has a brewery on the old town by the river and they still make their own beer, a dark bitter one that with time I come to love. The place looks stopped in time it is like if you enter on a movie from the 30's:), I like it: warm and cozy.

Next year I hope not to miss it.

Well,I have looked at some movies about this year's show, not the same thing...



Movie:

Positives Fazit der boot 2012 - Yacht TV

On this one, that is not very interesting at the beginning, just in the end you will see some images of the Salona 35 that looks just beautiful;).



Movie:

Video - "boot 2012" in Düsseldorf: Die Messe der weißen Träume - Reise | STERN.DE

..
 
#1,928 ·






This is a....BAVARIA:D:D:D

It seems Bavaria is going to make an inexpensive racer, a one class racer, the Bavaria B/one.

It will be fast (Farr designed) and inexpensive ( 22 900€ at the factory).

DATA (all preliminary):

Hull Length 7.00 m
Beam 2.49 m
Draft 1.60 m Liftkeel down
Main 21 m2
Jib 11 m2
Gennaker 46 m2
Weight approx. 1020 kg
370 kg Ballast

The boat will also have a cruising kit.

I would say this is an interesting one;)

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#1,930 ·
New boat from Dehler, or at least a new version of the 35 that remains in production, the 35SQ (same hull).

Dehler normaly make a SQ version of their boats when they have already some years to increase sales. SQ means super quality and in this case it means bigger winches, double back-stay, retractable cleats and as an option a closed transom with a folding swim platform.


The bigger difference however is a two wheel set up on the cockpit.

The boat is produced, as the 35, in two versions that they call cruiser and race, with a small difference in draft but with a big difference in quality of construction, weight and price: Epoxy and a plastic core on the race one, normal resins on the cruising one and a balsa core.

Off course the one that they call race is as good or better to cruise as the cruising one, only more expensive. The interior is the same.









Even if I understand the utility I think that the closed transom makes the boat ugly. I would have preferred a bench on the transom, leaving it open behind. That would also be better in what regards water evacuation.

Regarding the other version the two wheel set up certainly have advantages in what regards cruising with a far better passage on the cockpit, however I have to say that I liked that big carbon wheel and it seems obvious to me that even with a good set up the wheel sensibility would always be better with a single wheel (less friction). The two wells setup provides a better storage on the cockpit aft the wheel. Not an easy choice, at least for me even if in what regards sales there is no doubt: almost everybody wants two wheels set-up ;)

 
#1,934 · (Edited)
On the Transquadra that as most now is a solo or duo Transat for amateurs (more than 40 years old) the leading boat is an A31 and several other are among the first. I knew already that a A31 and the Jeanneau SF 32 can make about the same speed (at least on this race) as an A35 and be faster than for instance a First 40.7 or a Opium 39. I know that but I still find it amazing ;)

Transquadra 2011



 
#1,935 · (Edited)
The Archambault A 31 is an incredible boat and with JPK the only one that can offer exceptional results on solo or short handed ocean races and on handicap crewed races while offering a decent cruising interior for coastal cruising or in a very spartan way even for offshore cruising.

The Transquadra offers a very interesting study to find boats that can be fast and seaworthy offshore while easy manageable solo or by a duo. The race goes on for many years, the guys that race are amateurs with more than 40 years old but they are experienced sailors, many ex top racers now in its 50's or 60's that come to have fun.

They are very knowledgeable about boats and the information that is gathered by them in what regards the most suitable boats to do this race is very precise.

The boats that go well are the A31, the A35, the JPK 9,6, the JPK 10.10 and the Sunfast 32.

I would say that it is as relevant as the presence of many of these boats on the lead of the race, the total absence of boats that would seem at first glance capable of a good results, like the Elan 350 and the First 30. Why there is no one racing with them? Well, certainly there is a reason and probably they are not competitive with the other mentioned boats.

Let's have a better look at the A31. The boat has a bulbed keel for this race but since on handicap races a non bulbed kell has better rating, they also make it with a non bulbed keel. Stupid ratings, cause the boat is more efficient with a bulbed keel.























And a new interior they have presented this year at the Paris boat show:



And remember that amazingly this little boat with a good amateur crew on a Transat is faster than a 40ft cruiser racer, even a good fast one very adapted to solo sailing like an Opium 39 and certainly faster than the typical fast 40ft cruiser racer, like a First or a grand Soleil.

Archambault starts to have a well deserved world wide recognition and has dealers everywhere, including United States and Australia.


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