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08-05-2012 08:54 PM
Jgbrown
Re: That old wood finish question again

Paul: My boss swears by tufshield I think it's called? base coat that soaks in, and maintenence layers on top. I've seen it on the floors in some motorboats that have rather abusive usage(charter etc) and it holds up amazingly well. I plan to redo my boat in it as I get around to varnishing different pieces, I like the idea of a maintainable(aka scuff and add another coat) top coat, with a different base layer designed to hold together well.

I'm torn between that and the hard varnish like for gym floors etc recommended on the forum, but the testimony of someone with a lot of experience in putting on finishes on boats and his preference for a low maintenance finish strikes me as a safer bet. The other advantage is that since I can use it inside and out, I can standardize on two cans of finish for all wood on the boat, no monkeying around with loads of cans of oil, varnish, oil soaked rags etc cluttering up lockers.
08-05-2012 12:20 PM
PaulinVictoria
Re: That old wood finish question again

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Originally Posted by Stu Jackson View Post
If you've read 100 posts about this subject, then you should know nothing much has changed in the past 20 years. Your "criteria" is flawed, because you simply can't get something that looks just like varnish without the work.

--- leave it natural - it "grays"
--- cetol or Semco in all their permutations of colors and layers
--- varnish
Actually, I never mentioned anything about something that looks like varnish but not to worry. What I specifically asked was about what people in this area were using since our needs up here are somewhat different with regards to UV protection etc. I think I'm just going to rub down and use some oil on the handrails and transom strip, hopefully in our climate it should mean 6 months or so between a quick scrub and a maintenance wipe over. Or of course I could just replace the handrails with stainless ones. Or just not care.
The hatchboard is going to need a bit more I think.
08-05-2012 11:57 AM
CharlieCobra
Re: That old wood finish question again

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Originally Posted by PaulinVictoria View Post
And it looks great Charlie. I prefer going sailing to varnishing though
He sails the crap outta the boat.
08-05-2012 11:00 AM
Stu Jackson
Re: That old wood finish question again

If you've read 100 posts about this subject, then you should know nothing much has changed in the past 20 years. Your "criteria" is flawed, because you simply can't get something that looks just like varnish without the work.

--- leave it natural - it "grays"
--- cetol or Semco in all their permutations of colors and layers
--- varnish
08-04-2012 06:13 PM
sea_hunter We've replaced our brightwork with composite. Say goodbye to wasted space/time that cuts into my beer drinking endeavors.
08-04-2012 01:45 PM
MarkSF
Re: That old wood finish question again

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Originally Posted by CharlieCobra View Post
Paul, we do varnish for a reason:

Ahhh, now to get my cabin sole looking like that! I don't care how slippery and dangerous it is.
08-04-2012 01:36 PM
SloopJonB
Re: That old wood finish question again

How about Deks Olje? I used it years ago and it gave a finish quite similar to varnish but went on like oil. It WAS a bit dark IIRC.

Two parts - saturate the wood with part A and then Part B gave it gloss that was easily touched up.
08-04-2012 01:31 PM
SloopJonB
Re: That old wood finish question again

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Varnishing is like some kind of bad drug habit, in the sense of there never being an end to it. There are also the highs (final result looks great) followed by the inevitable lows (a year later and it's all peeling off.
I always thought varnish was a lot like golf - endless effort, expense and frustration in the search for an unattainable perfection.
08-04-2012 12:28 PM
Tanley
Re: That old wood finish question again

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Originally Posted by PaulinVictoria View Post
I've seen a few Cetol finished boats and they always look like they are wearing fake tan, do they do a non-coloured one too? And no gloss for me, I find it a little too much, rather like those chrome wheels you North Americans are so fond of.
I don't believe it's void of pigment, but Cetol Marine Natural does not result in the "fake tan" appearance of Sikkens' other products. It leaves a satin finish, an overcoat gloss product is available if you want to pimp your ride.

It's not subjective, Cetol just doesn't look anywhere near as nice as varnish. But it looks good enough for us when we're out sailing instead of laboring over brightwork.

Comparison pictures of the bare teak and with the Cetol Natural applied. Looks the same 2 seasons later (i.e. no discoloration from this tint).

Bare:



Cetol Natural



08-04-2012 11:51 AM
PaulinVictoria
Re: That old wood finish question again

And it looks great Charlie. I prefer going sailing to varnishing though
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