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08-16-2012 07:15 AM
sparrowe
Re: Not to be repetitive, but greeting from the Windy City

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Originally Posted by LongTallSailor View Post
Can the timeshare be further sub-divided? Could maybe four or five novices and one seasoned seaman acting as mentor share the cost and coordinate their combined boat time ?
I assume the answer is yes - Pinnacle encourages captains to register their 'crew' - in my case, that was my spouse. But most of the other captain-crew pairs were buddies from work, father-son, etc. I suppose you could extend this to a larger crew. The one catch is that the captain has to be on the boat. Maybe that would be your seasoned sailor acting as mentor. Whether you can have two captains on one share is a question I'm sure Gary Feracota would be happy to answer.

Having friends lined up to sail with you is a great idea. We had hoped to do most of our sailing with friends; turns out, not everyone jumped at the opportunity to go out on the lake. The few that were enthusiastic sometimes had scheduling conflicts. So, we did a fair bit of sailing with just the two of us. It was enjoyable and we learned a lot; however, it is usually more fun with four people on the boat than two.

By the way, Pinnacle provides a lot of support for relatively novice sailors. In fact, they insist that you 'pass' a basic sailing test. If you are new, they offer a series of five learning sessions on the water (at a modest cost) to get you up to speed. We did that - it was similar to ASA 101, but with greater emphasis on docking, as well as on Chicago specific concerns (don't try to sail up the River, etc.). We bought a couple extra sessions with an instructor; it was worth every penny in terms of our confidence in handling the boat.
08-16-2012 04:04 AM
LongTallSailor
Re: Not to be repetitive, but greeting from the Windy City

Can the timeshare be further sub-divided? Could maybe four or five novices and one seasoned seaman acting as mentor share the cost and coordinate their combined boat time ?
08-15-2012 03:43 PM
sparrowe
Re: Not to be repetitive, but greeting from the Windy City

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Originally Posted by w00dc4ip View Post
I'll definitely take any info on Olson or any other time-share systems in the Chicago area. Already looked at SailTime and Pinnacle, they seem pretty damn expensive for what they're offering.
Is time-share expensive? I was a Pinnacle customer on a Jeanneau 40 out of Belmont Harbor during the 2011 season. Let's do the arithmetic:

Owning a Boat: A slip in a Belmont Harbor for a 40 footer is pushing $5000 when tax is included. That's if you are a Chicago resident - for suburbanites, there is a 25% surcharge. You have to put fuel in the boat from time to time, and they charge for that. In November, the boat has to go to Crowleys and be hauled out for the winter. Then back in the water in May, tuned up for the Spring. And there is maintenance and routine repair, insurance, license fees, taxes, and who knows what else. I'm guessing it all adds up to something in the neighborhood of $10K per year - and that's not even considering the purchase of the boat itself, let alone new sails, etc.

Time-Share: $8550 for the season (the same Jeanneau 40 I leased), plus a refundable damage deposit and a membership fee. That gets you 36 sailing opportunities (9:00 am - 5:00 pm or 5:00 pm - 9:00 am); 14 weekend and 22 weekday. They maintain the boat, top up the water, and pump out the holding tank. Once we were out an noticed a 4" tear in the foresail - we put it down in the log and the next time we showed up there was a new sail.

All you do is show up and sail.

Clearly, if you are retired and have nothing interesting to do except sail, six times sailing each month isn't going to seem like much. But if you only have time to sail once or twice per week, this is a fine option - and it costs less than what you would pay as an boat owner. If you can live with a (mere?) 37 footer, it is even less expensive.

[not affiliated with Pinnacle, just a satisfied client]
08-02-2012 10:15 PM
LongTallSailor
Re: Not to be repetitive, but greeting from the Windy City

W00dc4ip,
Does / Will OCY pro-rate the rest of the summer?
08-02-2012 12:17 AM
w00dc4ip
Re: Not to be repetitive, but greeting from the Windy City

Hi agarcia,
Took a look at Incredible yesterday. Just figuring out now if I'll be jumping for the rest of this season, or waiting until next. Thanks for the information.

LongTall,
Just heard today that the boat out of Burnham is on the hard for the remainder of the season. Seems someone crashed into her while she was sitting in her slip and did some pretty serious damage. Not sure if she'll be ready for next season or not, but the rest of this year is gone. More reason for me to jump on OCY, if I do I'll shoot you a message.
08-01-2012 12:07 AM
agarcia Yes I currently have a partial share of the Ranger 29.
07-31-2012 11:12 PM
LongTallSailor
Re: Not to be repetitive, but greeting from the Windy City

Hey w00dc4ip,

Another Chicagoan here looking to crew in exchange for sailing lessons. Was wondering if you could put me in touch with your buddy with the ship in Burnham Harbor. I've already got my copy of the Annapolis Book of Seamanship and would be willing to supply some suds at least once a week to a potential mentor-captain. I'm north of 30, a fast learner, and available weekday afternoons through the early evening and on weekends for at least the rest of the summer. Am also free Friday mornings in the foreseeable future. I live off of Grand and Halsted so Monroe and Burnham Harbor are the closest to me but I'm not picky. I'll definitely trek up to Montrose or down to Jackson Park. PM me with the info or have your buddy PM me if he's on this forum. Thanks.

Good luck on your sailing endeavors.
07-30-2012 12:10 AM
w00dc4ip
Re: Not to be repetitive, but greeting from the Windy City

Thanks agarcia, will be looking into OCY. Are you a member there?
07-22-2012 01:39 AM
agarcia
Re: Not to be repetitive, but greeting from the Windy City

I added all the files to this super basic website.

ocy-info | Wix.com
07-21-2012 11:34 PM
w00dc4ip
Re: Not to be repetitive, but greeting from the Windy City

I'll definitely take any info on Olson or any other time-share systems in the Chicago area. Already looked at SailTime and Pinnacle, they seem pretty damn expensive for what they're offering. My ideal would be owning my own boat, but the slip fees in Chicago are just ridiculous, they'd essentially double the annual cost. Hell, I've seen a few 30-35 footers lately that are ready to go and would cost me less than the annual slip fee, assuming I could even get one. Considering Hammond seriously because they seem a bit more reasonable and it wouldn't be much farther for me to go there than it would be to go to Burnham. I'll definitely take a look around Muskegon as well. Have been looking at the boats at Corwleys on occasion, would probably store there for the winter if I ever got one.

Also, I'm definitely up for a meetup at SS next year.
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