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08-11-2014 09:27 AM
John Casey
Re: Thoughts about liveaboard

Famoffour, what do you think now that CaptnBry resurected your post after a 2 year gap?
08-10-2014 11:30 PM
midnightsailor
Re: Thoughts about liveaboard

i Say go for it , you said yourself you were happiest when living in the 5th wheel and you are correct that your husbands skills will be an asset. The one thing that might be difficult is living aboard in Maui. I lived abourd there for 8 years but as you mentioned I had been on a 20 year waiting liost for a slip in Maalaea Harbor. I only got one because I bought a boat from someone who alreday had a slip and it came with the boat. I looked into moorings myself in Lahaina Roadsted and off Kihei but the problem is A. the swell is awful and very uncomfortable to live on a boat , most people just see it as one of the only places to keep a boat there but not to live on. B. Too frequently the moorings drag regardless of how well they are set up andC. Forget about insurance if moored ! Better bet is Oahu at the Ala Wai boat Basin, many liveaboards there. I spent sevral months tied up there and it was very pleasent. Getting a slip though is still difficult although there are far more slips there than on Maui. Im back on the East Coast now and love it here where living aboard is easier to manage. I wish you the best of Luck !
08-10-2014 05:13 PM
CaptnBry
Re: Thoughts about liveaboard

WoodVet; this should be in the book i've never seen yet, "What your Father SHOULD have taught you"
09-01-2012 10:06 AM
Hawaiigirl
Re: Thoughts about liveaboard

Hi there....We raised our son in a 5th wheel and we would have gone the boat route if we could have afforded it back then...when the boat market fell it was a perfect opportunity for us to just go for it...it was a dream my husband has always had in the back of his mind...I just didn't know it could become a reality...anyway our son is 22 years old...travesl with us in a 26 foot Westerly along with a dog and a pet squirrel...we have only been doing this for 8 weeks...it was EXTREMELY tough for me to adjust at first because I felt nauseous but ginger cured that...I am still adjusting but I can see it is going to be a really awesome way to live...much more so than the RV lifestyle...ask me anything I will tell you the TRUTH...ha ha.....
08-28-2012 02:59 PM
Sabre Dan
Re: Thoughts about liveaboard

I saw the title of one of your replies. I agree that a power boat would probably suit better in terms of light and space. An inexpensive trawler-type might be a good starting place. My wife and I lived aboard in Charlestown(Constitution Marina) for eleven years. We had a 32 foot Ketch. You need to work out storage for seasonal stuff on land. Since you have two houses a shed in one of the yards would probably do nicely. Storage units can get pricey. Your fifth wheel experience should be very helpful You already know about life with minimal storage and tight quarters. Good Luck. Dan
08-28-2012 01:01 PM
Woodvet
Re: Thoughts about liveaboard

[The sad promise of what this brings is people solving a housing problem with a boating problem. Bums w/ a boat...
Brings a whole new meaning to leaving for the house knowing they have full access.
At the same time I need lots of time aboard to address the issues. It's not unheard of me spending a few weeks weeks aboard, eating, sleeping and sweating boat.
08-20-2012 06:35 PM
kjango
Re: Thoughts about liveaboard

Get a boat...don't look back .
08-20-2012 10:34 AM
zeehag
Re: Thoughts about liveaboard

i have watched many sets of kids grow on boats-- works well.
as to older folks new to sailing "doing the baja bash"--not accurate. the folks who sail sounth with haha do not necessarily bash back north. bash is the sailing north and bashing into the south bounhd curent and winds.
hlf the folks doing haha sail with puddle jump to so pac. about half of the remaine=der hire delivery skippers to bash the boat home--and the rest-- half of those are idiots ik eme who are into cruising--no i didnt do haha--i dont cruise in groups....some actually leave their boats in a mexican port to rot. they think they will return, but the boats usually find neglect as their owners fail to remain attentive. no, hiring a group of mexicans to do boat work is not routine maintenance.
coupes with children do well onthe water-- but the kids often suffer--i have seen kids without exercise programs run the motorized dink for fun and adventure around the other boats in an anchorage--i have also seen and met some very very polite and intelligent children cruising--i all in the way the parents teach and train. kids love boats--living on them is an adventure their friends do not get to have. education of these kids is usually home schooling, so the result is totally dependent on the parents and their input.
cruising with a family is an adventure-- consult bumfuzzles blogs----they are currently in puerto vallarta with 2 under 5 yr old kids.....on a boat.....
08-19-2012 10:47 PM
mikel1
Re: Thoughts about liveaboard

Nice input Woodvet! . . .
08-19-2012 01:01 PM
Woodvet
Re: Thoughts about liveaboard

As long as there is boats there will be questions, as long as there are sailors there will be opinions and as long as we have opinions there will be yarns.
A kid once asked me "Why is everyone yelling at me?"
I told him it's nothing personal. Most times when people bark orders they are not conversing or cursing -they are simply expressing an important need in the most efficient way they know how.

So sad are some people they only get along with a dog. Poor animal... On even a short voyage they return yelling at it profusely.
Nothing looks so tacky as to demean or rant at a dog you named after a Nazi General while is squats there peeing out of total fear.
My point isn't the mistreatment of dogs but children. It can be hard on them to always be the dumb kid on board. I suppose in a perfect world you bring on another child for him to abuse.
Playing games at sea is as great a fun as it is on land. I suggest there be days where you let the kid be captain and take his orders. Then make mouse like suggestions when he has over looked something.
Often the things we get most upset about are not all that important anyway. Remember that when you are trying to save face by demeaning a kid even further.
Kids need to say goofy things and push the limits. You can't simply bypass that because you are uncomfortable knowing every boat in the harbor hears him singing out the Disney song.
Kids are people and people are kids, better to respect them than always push. And if you push you get push back.
If you are pushing too hard perhaps back off on the coffee.
When I was very young we built a big raft in the woods behind our house.
My three brothers and I played on that darn thing till we wore it out. It never got anywhere near water, our mother was happy about that.
Remember kids need fun.
When my dad tossed us in the water to show us we might drown if we didn't know how to dog paddle. My fear screamed a lesson to my brain. Water is not our environment. Later that lesson matured into a health respect for the ocean. We may have ideas about what's a good lesson but capsizing is the one you don't forget. Crossing big water is dangerous, true. Most children die at the dock. If you think a big boat is danger try rowing a dink in a chop or through the surf back to the big one.
Any view of sailing gets a good vantage while in the water up to your neck.
Find out just how hard it is to get from there to regaining the deck and you get the idea about snapping in. If done right, it should be so exhausting that you can't get up once on the deck and lie there huffing and puffing to let that lesson sink in drive home.

I was so crazy as a young commercial fisherman my older skipper tried warning me but I saw it as exciting. Kids push the limits...
Teach the kid to steer the boat back to you once you are over board. If you can't trust him or her they are no use as crew. They should know fire control, first aid and radio talking as well. Keeping a calm demeanor under fire without the yelling will teach them a cool head but YELL IF YOU NEED TO. It has no effect if you do so all the time.
Kids love adventure, it's what being a kid is about so taking the danger out isn't natural.
The best thing is to teach themselves on a dinghy while you pretend not to watch. Small boats take quick decisions and racing is even better.
Better to ding that boat than the expensive one.
When you're old you won't want to circumnavigate anymore. You'll be cynical and see all the issues before they can happen. You'll say to your self "why bother?"
A boat must sail to be a boat, Let 'em be a kid so they can say: "Why not?"
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