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08-28-2012 11:46 PM
Sublime
Re: I saw the USS Constitution under sail!

She's done a lot for our country, more than most of us have. She paid her dues and deserves a nice cush life.

Would I like to see her under sail more often? Heck yeah! But I also want her around for future generations to see and experience.
08-28-2012 01:52 PM
MITBeta
Re: I saw the USS Constitution under sail!

We also see the Constitution at least once a week, since she's docked two piers over from the Courageous Sailing Center. But we did get to see her on the water last week as well. We saw her sailing from about a mile away, saw the 21 gun salute off Castle Island/Fort Independence from about half a mile away, and then she overtook us on the way back to the pier.



They take her out and turn her around every July 4, but this was a special event to commemorate the 200th anniversary of her first battle.


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08-24-2012 07:40 PM
kjango
Re: I saw the USS Constitution under sail!

150 people to fly 4 sails.......oh pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze You're here on a sailing forum....presumably you know better then that
08-24-2012 05:24 PM
Me and Boo
Re: I saw the USS Constitution under sail!

Something I remember from her last true sailing adventure in 1997 was the Navy explaining why they did not have most of her canvas out. They were concerned that her masts could twist (or something like that) under the power developed.

And, several analysts of some kind said "uh, they could have done more".

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Even though I see the Constitution on weekly basis, she always puts big smile on my face. It was disappointing on Sunday that there too little wind to fill her sails, your picture from 1997 shows more breeze. here's one from Sunday, not much sailing going on...
08-24-2012 04:43 PM
turban10
Re: I saw the USS Constitution under sail!

17 minute cruise or not, we midwest sailors can only see her in pictures. She is gorgeous! Makes me proud to be an American.
08-24-2012 02:56 PM
IronSpinnaker
Re: I saw the USS Constitution under sail!

Many of the cadets trained on the Eagle are Navy Cadets... I know, I used to have to salute them
08-24-2012 02:51 PM
casey1999
Re: I saw the USS Constitution under sail!

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Originally Posted by IronSpinnaker View Post
See USS Eagle.

I like my tax money being wasted in buying and sailing ships and subs that actually can be used to defend our country.
That's a CG boat. We need a Navy boat.

And on top of that, she is not even made in the US.

Historic Naval Ships Visitors Guide - USCGC Eagle
08-24-2012 02:47 PM
IronSpinnaker
Re: I saw the USS Constitution under sail!

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I really do. I would rather my tax dollars be "wasted" training some men and women how to sail a square rigger and to maintain that ship
See USCGC Eagle.

I like my tax money being wasted in buying and sailing ships and subs that actually can be used to defend our country.
08-24-2012 02:42 PM
casey1999
Re: I saw the USS Constitution under sail!

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Originally Posted by IronSpinnaker View Post
You really don't. She doesn't have a full crew, it takes 450 seamen to sail her properly and it would be a huge waste of tax dollars to crew and sail her. She already costs enough to maintain as a "landmark" and recruiting tool. Money well spent, but with use the maintenance costs go up...way up.

She isn't like the Eagle which is steel, so even using her as a training ship wouldn't be economical.

Her last refit cost 12 million. (that was with all the wood being donated) that was in 1991-1995. She had be refitted about a half dozen times before that... she is quite easily the most costly sailing ship in the world.
I really do. I would rather my tax dollars be "wasted" training some men and women how to sail a square rigger and to maintain that ship than on some of the "non wasted" tax dollars is spent on. Look at some of the ships that foreign countries sail when the us hosts tall ship events, and their national budgets are a lot less than ours. Just depends what your countries priorities are.
08-24-2012 02:35 PM
casey1999
Re: I saw the USS Constitution under sail!

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Originally Posted by ShoalFinder View Post
I get that. As a former Navy sailor myself, I agree with the good Admiral that sailors belong on ships and ships belong at sea. However, Old Ironsides is a museum that looks like a ship. She has a crew of tour guides and maintenance personnel.

For my tax dollars I want F22s that aren't made with Chinese parts in the oxygen generators. I want SOSUS updated and maintained so that Russion fast attacks aren't cruising around in the Gulf Mexico undetected.

My last ship is being decommed at the ripe old age of 21(!) I'd like my tax dollars to keep Aegis Cruisers in the fleet.
Obiviously you have not seen the recent movie "Battleship".

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Even if we spend $100 mill a year to mainatain and sail USS Constitution that is peanuts when you look at the entire military budget.
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