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08-31-2012 01:36 PM
jasn
Re: Western Shore Marina Recommendations

Great advice PalmettoSailor.

I figure that since I'm looking to hire a delivery captain, they will be able to help me fix, tweak, and/or upgrade any systems that are necessary prior to the delivery trip from FL to MD. Given that, it may be more fun for me to spend the fall months sailing the bay, before doing any serious upgrade work on her.

BTW, my mention of electrical and propane, were meant as ideas I had about doing upgrades, not mentions of systems I think aren't working. For example, I would like to upgrade the propane system to larger tanks, and upgrading the electrical to add more batteries and more solar panels, etc.

Thanks again..
08-31-2012 07:52 AM
PalmettoSailor
Re: Western Shore Marina Recommendations

Well I suppose it depends on how critical the upgrades are. The season is winding down rapidly so if it were me, I'd look for a good monthly slip rate and sail the boat through October at least. On our haul out years (we haul every other year) we usually won't haul until after Thanksgiving but you might want to haul a bit earlier to get a jump on the work you want done.

The only thing you mention that rasies flags was the propane system. If there are problems with that, they need to be addressed before you use the boat, but its likely they could be addressed just as easily with the boat in the water as on land.

The rest of the stuff you mention sounds like the kind of work best done on the hard over the winter. HHN has the tradesmen to do the work you are looking for and they will likely be a tad cheaper than Annapolis though still expensive by my measure.

Edit to add, I don't think there really is such a thing as "dry storage" for 38' keelboats at HHN. There are certainly service bays where vendors do fiberglass and paint work but I think they are only for boats undergoing repair and they get moved outside once the work is done. Shrinkwrapping is a popular option to protect boats at HH marina's.
08-30-2012 12:10 AM
jasn
Re: Western Shore Marina Recommendations

Thanks again for the great suggestions/confirmations Greg and Nicklaus.

I've actually contacted folks at HHN(HHS), Paradise, Rockhold Creek, as well as Town Point, marinas and I figure that one of the them will definitely be suitable for my needs.

The one thing I'm thinking now, as I go through the purchase process, is that when I get my boat here, I'm pretty sure I will want to spend time upgrading some systems, (particularly electrical, and propane). The listing broker mentioned to me already that she will need new deck paint, and that may be a good time to look at upgrading deck hardware as well.

That kind of makes me think that I should probably get her to HHN, and get her hauled out and put into dry storage. I assume that would be best because I imagine that the easiest way to do most systems upgrades, would be dry docked. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong..)

It also looks like if I went that way, I wouldn't even necessarily have to rent a marina slip until after the work was done. Anyway. I appreciate the assistance / feedback.

Thanks all..

Jason
08-21-2012 03:45 PM
Nicklaus
Re: Western Shore Marina Recommendations

HHS is pretty pricy compared to marinas in Rockhold Creek - though I imagine cutting out the 30 minutes of motoring around the sandbar might be worth it. At 38 ft, you might draw too much water to cut across the sand bar – which is doable.

[Just to head off people saying you could sail down to the tip of the bar, it's due south with a somewhat busy / narrow channel and the wind is often coming from the South. So it's a lot of tacking while avoiding fishing charters. I’m sure a dozen people on here do it 4 times a week.]

We have kept our boat at Paradise Marina over by Skipper’s Pier restaurant for the last two years and love it. It’s not a resort marina with a pool, but it does have a nice, new, clean bath house and the landscaping is great. There are only about 65 slips total so it has a very neighborly feel and the walk from slip to bath house / ice machine / parking is never more than a minute.

Paradise isn’t a working boatyard, but you are literally across the creek from HHN, Shipwright and several others – which is where I store my boat in the winter.

If you want a low-key marina with friendly people who are just as likely to be sitting in the shade with a drink as they are to be polishing some brass or chrome or heading out on the Bay, Paradise is the place. It’s large enough to deal with upkeep but small enough that inviting a few dozen friends out on a Saturday evening for a crawfish boil (which I’ve done) doesn’t causes a stir.

PM me if you want any contact details.
08-20-2012 08:55 PM
paperbird
Re: Western Shore Marina Recommendations

Jason,

This is our first year at HHN so can offer some insights. We've also kept boats on the South, the Severn and the Magothy Rivers.

While it is about a 20-25 min run down 'the slot' to get around the sand bar, it's a very short run from slip to several weekend destinations (Rhode and Choptank in particular)

The thing that has struck us about HHN is the degree to which each dock is a community. Ours has a handful of live-aboards and most folks are around for some or all of every weekend. For the most parts, the boats are used, people share experiences, help each other with projects and are a delight to get to know.

We actually live in Annapolis so are driving south. But we wanted the community that HHN seemed to offer and we were looking to be close to the Choptank and closer to the southern Bay - new cruising grounds to explore!

On the transport question - if the boat is seaworthy, I'll second the recommendation to hire a skipper but go along as crew. We trucked ours up from Houston, but she wasn't she wasn't seaworthy. The more time you can spend underway, the better you'll know her!

Enjoy!
Greg
08-20-2012 08:23 PM
jasn
Re: Western Shore Marina Recommendations

Thanks All,

To Tod, no worries, as a matter of fact, I'm glad you posted your feedback on HHN service. It's the kind of information I was looking for, and gives me impetus to choose a marina a bit away from Annapolis. To jsaronson, thanks and I'm happy that Herrington Harbour comes recommended, and to PalmettoSailor, I will definitely add HHN/HHS, to the marinas you suggested. I currently live in Northern Calvert County, Maryland, literally 20 minutes away from HHS. So I wouldn't mind if my boat were there, or at a marina a bit farther north, or a marina a bit farther south. I'll ping them all and ask the relevant questions about rates, etc. and then decide.

Thanks again folks..

Jason
08-20-2012 03:12 PM
PalmettoSailor
Re: Western Shore Marina Recommendations

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Originally Posted by jasn View Post
Thank you Tod,

For the welcome and advice. I was thinking that I would love to crew on my new boat's delivery, so I will definitely be exploring that option. (I may be putting the horse before the cart here, as I still have to have my offer accepted, personal inspection, survey and sea trial, completed, but I'm confident that this is the one..)

I'm guessing that there's probably better expertise options in marina service and support, the farther north one gets to Annapolis. (I'm also guessing that there may be more service options meaning competition could help with service costs.) However, I live in Calvert County and would slightly prefer to have my boat at a Marina somewhere between Herrington Harbor North and points south, as it would make driving to it, a little easier. So far HHN looks like it may work out the best. I'll ping them later today to ask about rates.

Thanks again,

Jason
Did I miss a post on why no one is recommending Herrington Harbor South if that's closer to where you live? Do you require a boat yard at your home marina or is having one associated and 1/2 an hour away good enough?

I was at HHS for 2 seasons and can attest that its a first class facility with the feel of a vacation resort. My complaint was that the place was like a vacation resort -- after two seasons I could still go to the pool and not know a soul. Plus parking was tight both our slip and for our car so we decided to try HHN and the slips they could offer me looked even more challenging than what I already had so we decided to go much lower key and try Shipwright Harbor. I can throw a rock into HHN from my boat, and its a closer walk to Calypso Bay and West Marine from my slip than some slips in HHN. SHM does look like a dump in comparison to HHS/HHN though. Despite that, So far its a good fit for us and we already know the crews of nearly a dozen boats, so to us, Shipwright is much more of a community feel. Depending on how far south you live you might also consider marina's in Solomon's. There are several that I hear good things about but I really liked Spring Cove Marina. In our search for a new slip though we decided it was too far from our home in NOVA.

There are plenty of reputable marine trades in Solomon's as well as HHN, so don't give them short shrift thinking you need to go to Annapolis to get skilled marine trades.

Good luck with whatever you decide and welcome to Sailnet.
08-20-2012 11:35 AM
Gladrags1
Re: Western Shore Marina Recommendations

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Originally Posted by jasn View Post
Thank you Tod,

I'm guessing that there's probably better expertise options in marina service and support, the farther north one gets to Annapolis. (I'm also guessing that there may be more service options meaning competition could help with service costs.) Jason
I don't want to imply that the folks at Herrington Harbor North are less than experienced than Annapolis. They are very compitent and probably less expensive than marinas in Annapolis. There is an unofficial "surcharge" to having your boat worked on in Annapolis.

Hope it works out. By the way, my first posting made the assumption that the boat is capable of coastal or off shore passagemaking. That should factor in to the decision as well. A compitent boat captain or your surveyor will be able to determine that.

Again, good luck!
08-20-2012 11:27 AM
jsaronson
Re: Western Shore Marina Recommendations

Jason,

Congrats!

i purchased a boat on the hard at HHN. They have some great tradesmen on site, an open yard and let you work on your boat. The West store is well stocked and the staff was above average. I did not look at dockage rates. The draft of your boat could be an issue.
One option is to look at West River Sailing Assocation. It is a condo marina, and individual slip owners set their own rental rates.
08-20-2012 11:03 AM
jasn
Re: Western Shore Marina Recommendations

Thank you Tod,

For the welcome and advice. I was thinking that I would love to crew on my new boat's delivery, so I will definitely be exploring that option. (I may be putting the horse before the cart here, as I still have to have my offer accepted, personal inspection, survey and sea trial, completed, but I'm confident that this is the one..)

I'm guessing that there's probably better expertise options in marina service and support, the farther north one gets to Annapolis. (I'm also guessing that there may be more service options meaning competition could help with service costs.) However, I live in Calvert County and would slightly prefer to have my boat at a Marina somewhere between Herrington Harbor North and points south, as it would make driving to it, a little easier. So far HHN looks like it may work out the best. I'll ping them later today to ask about rates.

Thanks again,

Jason
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