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10-05-2012 03:15 PM
christyleigh
Re: Chartplotter died, time to upgrade?

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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
Your radar will probably not work with any new Chartplotter besides its worth it to try and get a discount though a bundle.
Good advise that I wish I knew before I chased 'saving money' down the rabbit hole a couple years ago. My old 1999 Black and White RL70 radar screen was getting un-readable. So..... I figured I'd just replace that. Nope - no signal from the radome because I was a few hundred serial #'s low of the cutoff for compatability. Ok..... so I buy a new dome. Well.... the new domes instead of connecting in the rear where the cable goes through they connect in the front requiring a couple extra feet of cable inside - That I Didn't Have So.... now I have to buy another cable. The moral is for me - I should have bought a 'Bundle'.
10-05-2012 01:57 PM
Gladrags1
Re: Chartplotter died, time to upgrade?

I like a chartplotter at or close to eye level when sitting at the helm. Then it doesn't take too much time to look between the plotter and the sea, particularly in dicey conditions. Of course available space and possibility of blocking view are all considerations. Presently, my plotter is at the helm and I am getting a 7" screen which will be an improvement over my present 5" one. I plan on installing it in the same place; eye level and slightly to the right of center. Above the binnicle compass.

Tod
10-05-2012 01:03 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Chartplotter died, time to upgrade?

The chart resolution will be night and day. You can mount a stainless steel rail in front of the helm, if you don't have one already, and easily attach a pod to it.

However, I prefer them under the table where you have it now. Another alternative is above and behind the table, which makes them easier to see. I think it is a little easier to step around a bigger unit if up high, as it isn't hitting your knees, but I like them below for aesthetics. If the unit is twisted on its swivel to one side, it should theoretically get narrower.
10-05-2012 12:36 PM
Gene T
Re: Chartplotter died, time to upgrade?

Dual helm. I have a swivel pull out mounted under the table. But if it gets wider than about 9 inches you can bump it when moving around the cockpit. But an e7 (which is just over 9") will look pretty small from the helms. Mounting at the starboard helm would be OK but space is limited and it would probably get in the way. I would prefer a 9" wide display that is not wide-screen. Oh well. You take what you can get I guess. It will be easier to see than what I have now I imagine.

Gene
10-05-2012 11:58 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Chartplotter died, time to upgrade?

If you are mounting under a cockpit table, can I assume you have dual helms?

If so, I highly recommend a swivel pod to move it to better face whichever you are sailing from.

In fact, there are pod systems to mount a plotter to just about anything.
10-05-2012 11:51 AM
Gene T
Re: Chartplotter died, time to upgrade?

I agree that upgrading makes sense. One thing that bothers me is the size of the newer units. Wide screen displays seem to be designed for power boats. The largest display I would want to put under my cockpit table would be the Ray e7. That seems pretty small for something that is not close to your face. Not sure where I would mount one near the helm. The positives would be I could add AIS, radar is pretty cheap now at under $1000, a second display below is perhaps unnecessary due to compatibility of an ipad. There are reported problems interfacing with older autopilots. I am still unclear if the first series SeaTalk works with the new SeaTalk(hs). I am also confused about charts, built in or add on differences.

Gene
10-05-2012 07:25 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Chartplotter died, time to upgrade?

If you can afford it, definitely upgrade. First, you will be grinning ear to ear for an entire season when you see the difference. Seriously. Second, it is one of the best ways to improve the value of your boat. However, not by the full investment. As a generality, your current stuff is literally worth zero. New models are worth about half what you pay for them, if you thought to sell or refinance your boat. If that sounds bad, consider that most anything else you spend on your boat is worth less in value, typically because you are just fixing stuff that isn't supposed to be broken or fully worn. Electronics are somewhat optional, however, on larger boats, modern electronics can be an expectation.

As a rule, I prefer to keep all systems from the same manufacturer: plotters, radar, autopilots, etc, etc. Whatever needs to talk to each other, that is. It keeps them from pointing figures at the other brand in the link, if and when you have an issue.
10-05-2012 02:15 AM
chef2sail
Re: Chartplotter died, time to upgrade?

C90w and digital radar packages are very resona Bly priced right now. No matter what you buy it will ave an improved model in 6 months. Get one that lasts and meets your needs don't spend for features you won't ever use. All my ST69 instruments were constable with the C90w and are linked in.

Dave
10-03-2012 12:52 PM
Gene T
Re: Chartplotter died, time to upgrade?

The C90w looks pretty good, but I notice it is already obsolete. Maybe get one while they last. Looking at them online I think the C90w might be a better unit than the newer C95. I could get a C90w now and replace the nav station unit with a newer panel mount with radar and AIS later. Newer models should be compatible with the C90w for several years I would hope.

I noticed the RC530's on ebay but $500+ w/o warranty or support is absurd, I would put that cash towards newer tech. History shows they sell for below $200, I can wait for more sensible sellers.

I need to get into a retail outlet and check out usability and charts. Ask questions about compatibility with my older ST60 instruments and the st7000+ autopilot.

I appreciate all your input.

Gene
10-03-2012 12:17 PM
chef2sail
Re: Chartplotter died, time to upgrade?

I like the Raymarine stuff too. The new AIS is great in the integration as well as with the new digital radar. My choice to go with the c90w was threefold. I already have st60 instruments and autopilot, and like chick said plug and played instantly.

1- The screens on these chartplotters get dirt/ salt mist on them so very easily because of the environment they are in. I have a C80 which I fastidiously kept clean with the proper wipes etc, but even so after 4 years the screen had scratches on it dulling the picture much the way a pair of older sunglasses has. This screen was not the principal way of finding data with a finger like the e series/ hybrids are. running you fingers on a screen with salt on it constantly ( gorilla glass or not) will eventually scratch it up
2-my wife will get us 5 menus ahead on a touch screen vrs buttons and dials
3- The screen on the c890w is larger/ the pixels on both were the same for clarity ( much better than my older c80), and I didnt need the wifi/ bluetooth

Both are good choices.
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