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10-15-2012 07:13 PM
Familycruisers
Re: Mooring vs slip?

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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
Our dock is in a protected hurricane hole. Other than a storm which brings 8 foot storm surge ( we have very little todal change unlike Maine) our bat is much safer tied up in 8 places vs t an anchor or mooring.

My question is not for the once in a ten year storm, but is for the normal storms of 30-40 knott winds which are common to have 5 or so a year. I can't beleive its safer to go anchor my boat out than leave it in a marina protected 360 degrees.

Fairly cruisers, does tht mean every storm you untie your boat and anchor t setting on it?

Dave
Dave, yes if I'm at the dock (charging, washing, whatever) and I see a storm I'll go out to the mooring, which is overkill for my boat and tucked up in a nice spot.

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Originally Posted by cyasurfin View Post
How does one safely secure the outboard on a mooring slip. I know there are locking systems available, but are they reasonably secure. That is my greatest concern. I am considering a mooring in Mission Bay in San Diego
I just use a padlock through the clamps, seems effective.
10-15-2012 01:35 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Mooring vs slip?

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Originally Posted by cyasurfin View Post
......Do folks lock up thier motors in the cabin or is that too much trouble
Not a good idea to put gasoline inside a boat. Not even for the main engine. Fumes are flammable as are spills.

In some parts of the world, small outboards are worth their weight in gold and you must go to great lengths to secure them. A good chain or cable are about the best you can do.

An old marina actually required your outboard to be chained to your dinghy, so we used a bicycle lock. The combination mechanism rusted in place the first season. Most, however, do not lock them at all.

When in Nantucket a few months ago, I was surprised to see how many dinghies were cabled and pad locked to the dinghy dock.
10-15-2012 12:02 PM
cyasurfin
Re: Mooring vs slip?

Actually I was referring to the Outboard motor for a Catalina 22. The dighy discussion was very helpful. I really have not thought a lot about that. Do folks lock up thier motors in the cabin or is that too much trouble
10-14-2012 03:27 PM
JulieMor
Re: Mooring vs slip?

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Originally Posted by Jiminri View Post
In the past, if, for example, I wanted an electrician to check something out, I could just tell him...
...or her...

Having been on both on a can and in a slip, the first thing I'd say is the boat got a lot more use in the slip. It was there, ready to go at any time.

1. The frig was always cold, often with drinks and sometimes food already in it Ice stayed frozen in the freezer.
2. The batteries were always charged
3. Great water pressure w/o running the pumps or draining the water tank
4. The slip made loading and unloading very easy
5. We never did overnights on the can but often did in the slip.
6. I no longer had to row out to the can (one time the wind was blowing so hard I gave up) and then try to find someplace to dock the boat to load guests and provisions
7. We worried a lot less about the boat being damaged. Boats tend to lose their mooring a lot easier on a can. One time I was lucky enough to be on the boat when a loose boat came our way. We managed to stop it then towed it to the nearest can. I often wondered how the owner found it.

There's more, but for me, if there's a choice, I'll take the slip any day.
10-14-2012 02:07 PM
daledog
Re: Mooring vs slip?

Usually wherever you are you can tie up for a few hours during the day, at a gas dock or marina dock, whatever to fill water, scrub the boat, do laundry. I like to row so no engine hassles. On a mooring the boat is always in line with the breeze so there is always a nice breeze through the boat, and less bugs usually...both big advantages. And yeah, sitting in the cockpit having dinner or a pop is much more pleasant moored. I moor at 79th st in NYC when there. A tough spot for the elements (current, wake, tide, traffic) but ashore you are in the heart of Manhattan...
10-14-2012 02:01 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Mooring vs slip?

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Originally Posted by jephotog View Post
My guess is they have a large powerboat in a slip they use for cocktailing or as a tender when they want to go sailing.
Painfully true. One I know only races his Swan, but parties on his 70 ft power boat.

In my current marina, bragging rights don't go to the guy with the biggest boat. They go to the guy with the most boats. One guy has three, all in their own slip.
10-14-2012 01:34 PM
NewportNewbie
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Originally Posted by cyasurfin View Post
How does one safely secure the outboard on a mooring slip. I know there are locking systems available, but are they reasonably secure. That is my greatest concern. I am considering a mooring in Mission Bay in San Diego
You mean the dingy? I tied it to the mooring lines. Was also a good visual of where I need to go. It was secure except once in bug wind conditions. The line somehow unwrapped from the mooring. Dingy goes flying through the mooring field because of the current. Had to swing around an maneuver a 30 foot boat and chase down a dingy that is caught in the current. All while making sure I don't hit other boats and don't run over other mooring lines. Then one guy had to jump out of the boat and into the dingy to retrieve it. It was hairy but we had a great laugh when it was all done.
10-14-2012 12:18 PM
cyasurfin
Re: Mooring vs slip?

How does one safely secure the outboard on a mooring slip. I know there are locking systems available, but are they reasonably secure. That is my greatest concern. I am considering a mooring in Mission Bay in San Diego
10-14-2012 12:15 PM
Maine Sail
Re: Mooring vs slip?

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Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
Our dock is in a protected hurricane hole. Other than a storm which brings 8 foot storm surge ( we have very little todal change unlike Maine) our bat is much safer tied up in 8 places vs t an anchor or mooring.

My question is not for the once in a ten year storm, but is for the normal storms of 30-40 knott winds which are common to have 5 or so a year. I can't beleive its safer to go anchor my boat out than leave it in a marina protected 360 degrees.

Fairly cruisers, does tht mean every storm you untie your boat and anchor t setting on it?

Dave
I sailed out of Herrington Harbor South on the Saturday of the boat show.

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It was blowing approx 20-25+ when we returned at about 9:00 pm. Despite this being a very "protected" hole with a narrow fairway to get in, my friends boat was still heeling in the slip and pinned against the dock after we tied her up. He's only got a few inches between his boat and the pilings.. All that in only 20-25 knots in a "protected" hole.. During the day while we were out sailing it blew harder but I was not there to see how the boats reacted..

Down there you don't have a choice as there are very limited moorings. Up here there is a choice and many of our local marinas don't have a wait list while at the same time the mooring fields do..
10-14-2012 12:03 PM
jephotog
Re: Mooring vs slip?

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
We have Hylas, HRs, Swans, etc on moorings all around here. 50+ footers to boot
My guess is they have a large powerboat in a slip they use for cocktailing or as a tender when they want to go sailing.
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