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10-13-2012 09:10 PM
floridajaxsailor
floors

Some great comments on this thread thank you
Emoney I really appreciate the detail I am wondering as completely agree the cancer analogy plus ballcap- brilliant but 1 of my questions is the fiberglass skin that's over this floor I don't have a plywood floor
the only wood on the floor is that small panel which covers the bildge~ it is 3 feet long by 4 inches wide.

I assume to get to the stringers which I can only guess are obviously are under the fiberglass skin the floor... there are may be a soft stringer ot two- most of the floor seems very solid
but yes, at some point I would like to clean it out and make sure it's all dry
Can this be done in the water? And how do you recommend cutting the fiberglass skin~ seems like the preformentioned router is a great option I saw somebody mentioned
Further, how do you rebuild the floor skin after stringer repair- I assume you have an option then of going fiberglass again or wood flooring
10-12-2012 04:16 PM
chucklesR
Re: slightly soft floor remedies

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Originally Posted by eherlihy View Post
Chuckles - the .9mm veneer is only on the ¼" sheets. The others use a whopping 1.1mm veneer
Yeah, cus that's better.

Frigging varnish is laid on thicker than that.
10-12-2012 04:01 PM
eherlihy
Re: slightly soft floor remedies

Chuckles - the .9mm veneer is only on the ¼" sheets. The others use a whopping 1.1mm veneer
10-12-2012 03:59 PM
chucklesR
Re: slightly soft floor remedies

I picked up a piece of teak at Exotic 4 years ago - for 70 bucks.

It was 2 inches thick, 9 wide and 6 feet long.

I could have cut that up into 3/32 thick, 2 7/8 wide by 6 foot planks and done a lot of sole for a LOT under 400 bucks. By epoxying those planks onto marine ply with a holly strip it would have been stronger and far better than a thin .9mm veneer.

I got the piece to make a fireplace mantel, got rid of the fireplace instead so I turned the wood into a large number of decorative backing plates and such on my boat and others. All that remains is a 2 inch by 9 inch by 18 inch chunk.

And that would be a crap load better than .9mm thick veneer.

Look around at mill shops - some are reasonable and most are looking for work - not everyone owns the gear to re-saw and plane.
10-12-2012 03:13 PM
eherlihy
Re: slightly soft floor remedies

See Boulter Plywood in Sommerville, MA

Quote:
Teak & Holly

Genuine Burmese teak plywood with the appearance of a traditional deck planking:

2 3/8” wide teak,¼” wide holly
1.1mm thick teak face before sanding
Tropical hardwood core.

1/4" stock is a .9mm face veneer.

-----------------1/4"-------1/2"--------3/4"
4 x 8 -----------215.00-----235.00----275.00
4 x 4 or 2 x 8----130.00-----145.00----165.00

Weight per 4 x 8--25 Lbs-----48 Lbs----72 Lbs

Teak & Holly Plastic Laminate 4' x 8' x 1/2" $275.00 per sheet 2 3/8” wide teak,¼” wide holly

Teak & Holly Plastic Laminate 4' x 8' x veneer $225.00 per sheet 2 3/8” wide teak,¼” wide holly

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10-12-2012 02:34 PM
Stumble
Re: slightly soft floor remedies

There are a lot of other materials out there, from carbon sandwich sheets, to honeycomb stuff. But for anything with even close to the stiffness of plywood expect to pay much more. Frankly, unless you already have poped for a carbon rig, composite rigging, and 3dl/carbon sails this is a poor allocation of money. The weight is too low in the boat for it to be worth the dollars.
10-12-2012 02:28 PM
hellosailor
Re: slightly soft floor remedies

Dave, as much as I like the aesthetics of teak and holly (OK, really, I think anything else just doesn't belong in a boat) you might want to look around for alternatives. Someone used to make honeycomb panels, a hollowcore honeycomb of impervious material skinned on both sides so it looks like 3/4" plywood but weighs less than half as much. You know, get the dead weight out of the boat, eliminate any questions of rot, look into newer materials and maybe make it better than new?
10-11-2012 08:09 PM
Stumble
Re: slightly soft floor remedies

The best tool ever for cutting new soles is a router with a flush trim bit. A router table works even better, but if you don't like wood working can be an expensive investment. Do the rough cuts to general dimensions with a jig saw, and a flush trim bit with the old piece (template) clamped to the new board.

The flush trim bit will follow the edge of the template, and give you a piece that is exactly the same.
10-11-2012 06:43 PM
flyingjib
Re: slightly soft floor remedies

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Originally Posted by arf145 View Post
Dave, I'd really like to know who you go to, and how it goes. I'm in your general area and our semi-rotten sole has been on my list for several years. If I thought I could get someone competent to do the cutting for me I'd probably go in that direction. I'd rather not repeat last year's comedy where I drove home from Exotic Lumber with a 4 x 8 sheet of 1/4" teak plywood strapped to my V dub, but I'll do what I have to.
Cutting the soles is an easy task. I used a combination of a circular saw for straight cuts and a Bosch jig saw for others. A large plumb level was my guide. It really didn't take that long...
10-11-2012 06:35 PM
arf145
Re: slightly soft floor remedies

Quote:
Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
My winter project is to replace the sole on our C&C 35MKIII. It has about 7 different sections to it. The floor is screwed down on the horizontal stringers and longitudinal ribs.It can be taken up easily.
Dave, I'd really like to know who you go to, and how it goes. I'm in your general area and our semi-rotten sole has been on my list for several years. If I thought I could get someone competent to do the cutting for me I'd probably go in that direction. I'd rather not repeat last year's comedy where I drove home from Exotic Lumber with a 4 x 8 sheet of 1/4" teak plywood strapped to my V dub, but I'll do what I have to.
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