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10-13-2012 01:33 PM
Harborless
Re: Help With Offshore Navigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by fryewe View Post
"Basically, The boat is 100% ready to go so we are not talking safety"....

OP: This single sentence captures your need for a crawl then walk then run approach to your dreams. You have NO IDEA what you are getting into. Serendipity may ride your shoulders for a bit but this statement shows that your understanding of seamanship is startlingly immature. You need more than schooling in basic navigation and piloting. You need to develop good judgement. Gain experience. Sail with someone who is experienced. Every action you take at sea is about safety. Every plan you make is about safety. Every mile you sail is about safety. Not just your safety but those who inhabit the waters you enter. Managing risks to both you and them is your primary job, Skipper.
Pshh... this sort of reply is not only useless but frustrating.
10-13-2012 01:31 PM
Harborless
Re: Help With Offshore Navigation

Forgive me for leading you all to believe I don't know my jib from my main or my port from my starboard. I have tons of experience sailing inland waters and I have sailed Hobie cats and Sun Fish around the Bahamas (From Man-o-War to Nippers).

Basically the difference here is that I live on this boat and that the trip will most likely entail a stop before I reach my destination. Also, its much easier to navigate the Bahamas because there are so many markers and you know the island count (Okay we just past Scotland key to green turtle will be coming up ect.)
I have no experience sailing the eastern seaboard but I am not an idiot and my boat i s outfitted and ready top go. I know every bolt of my boat and am more than confident in my abilities should something happen mechanical-structural.
My way-point, or better yet region of uncertainty lies entirely with navigation and making an overnight or multiple stop trip where I will not tie up from where I left off.

So please no more belittling replies of I have no idea of this or that. Thats ridiculous, I regular single hand in 20+ knots and sail back into my slip. I am just always used to having land markers for reference and need help making the jump to sea navigation.
Thanks.
10-12-2012 10:07 PM
downhill
Re: Help With Offshore Navigation

I think it is awsome that you are planning a sailing ADVENTURE in the Atlantic Ocean (sailing against the Gulf Stream) and even talk about a weather window, but there is a slight chance that you may only see water at one point (and the sun if you are lucky), so it is probably a good idea to know your position. What if you get caught in a nasty northerly during your weather window and need to tell the coast guard where you are in order for them to rescue you? Better make sure you know your exact position!
10-12-2012 08:00 PM
Flybyknight
Re: Help With Offshore Navigation

Quote:
Originally Posted by rockDAWG View Post
Almighty Captains,

We all have to start at the bottom.

Peace.
Please; don't remind me of that nightmare.
10-12-2012 06:36 PM
hellosailor
Re: Help With Offshore Navigation

Sounds like a well-deserved slam against Volusia County but sounds false.

Too many towns and counties in the US have learned the hard way that you don't even serve a search warrant more than a couple of hours outside of business hours, or else you wind up in court and mourning the budget you no longer have.

Even jack-booted crackers understand "This is gonna cost us, ain't it?" these days.

Got any citations for those night boardings?
10-12-2012 06:25 PM
Brent Swain
Re: Help With Offshore Navigation

New Smyrna Beach has a reputation for cops boarding in the night, sticking a gun in your face, and holding you and your crew at gunpoint, while they check your head for holding tank regulations. I'd avoid the place.
10-12-2012 01:44 PM
rockDAWG
Re: Help With Offshore Navigation

Almighty Captains,

Please stop beating on the OP. I think he got the idea. He has been around here for almost two years. I am sure he will be prudent. His question may be a bit elementary to most of us. There was no indication that he is dumb. Give him some credit that at least he came here to ask. All of you provided him some good answers, I am sure he will follow them accordingly.

Respect goes a long way. We all have to start at the bottom.

Peace.
10-12-2012 11:38 AM
fryewe
Re: Help With Offshore Navigation

"Basically, The boat is 100% ready to go so we are not talking safety"....

OP: This single sentence captures your need for a crawl then walk then run approach to your dreams. You have NO IDEA what you are getting into. Serendipity may ride your shoulders for a bit but this statement shows that your understanding of seamanship is startlingly immature. You need more than schooling in basic navigation and piloting. You need to develop good judgement. Gain experience. Sail with someone who is experienced. Every action you take at sea is about safety. Every plan you make is about safety. Every mile you sail is about safety. Not just your safety but those who inhabit the waters you enter. Managing risks to both you and them is your primary job, Skipper.
10-12-2012 11:03 AM
RobGallagher
Re: Help With Offshore Navigation

+1 for the ASA navigation course.
10-12-2012 10:54 AM
sonofasonofasailer456
Re: Help With Offshore Navigation

you need to listen to everyone here, if you don't get that your gps tells you where you are, gives you lattitude and longitude of your position and read a chart that willl gives you lat and lon of where you want to go and you program that into your gps, then you need to read, your manual and figure it out, research online, go to the library get a book, do some research dude, don't expect everyone here to tell you how to do it. you need to learn how, or ask someone that knows what their doing or least knows more than you to go with you and will show you the ropes. Go to sailors exchange in St. Augstine and see if they have a used chart plotter. map and gps all in one but you need the experience if something goes wrong. Alot can go wrong and it can turn very serious in a heart beat. Have fun but respect the ocean she takes no prisoners.
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