SailNet Community - Reply to Topic
Thread: Aft head boats Reply to Thread
Title:
Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



  Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Click here to view the posting rules you are bound to when clicking the
'Submit Reply' button below


  Topic Review (Newest First)
11-23-2015 11:48 PM
blt2ski
Re: Aft head boats

I like Bob's boat hull shape etc from seeing the rest of the plan.......It would have to be an aft galley of some sort, so galley slave can keep race crew happy! Besides, sails are kept where the galley is, so this would be an issue......at least on MY boat!

At the END of the day, just like in the production boat thread, there is no EFFING right or wrong, other than what is RIGHT FOR ME!!!!! well, better put down SPOUSE over MY opinions!

That ez me story, Ima steecking to et!

marty
11-23-2015 07:32 PM
jeremiahblatz
Re: Aft head boats

Well, it ain't classic, but it's sure plastic. The Pogo 30 has an aft head, and can go pretty much anywhere.

Very, uhh, spacious, as well:
11-23-2015 07:06 PM
Erindipity
Re: Aft head boats

A couple of opinions, which are bound not to be popular...

Interior Yacht design is often bound by tradition, and the traditional way to jam 7 berths into 30 feet was:
V Berth.
Head. Hanging Lockers opposite.
Salon and Galley with one single Berth to one side, and a double Berth opposite, once Dinner had been cleared away.
Two Quarterberths.

Putting the Head Aft means the loss of a Quarterberth. Simply unthinkable.
On the other hand, a Head near the Cockpit is a Head that may be used, instead of using a bucket in the Cockpit, and then over the side it goes.
Putting the Head Aft where the Beam is still wide on Modern boats, is not only Ergonomically friendly, but Environmentally sound. Also, a good place to stash the Foulies when Foul.


Aft Heads actually go _way_ back. ("Poop" Decks... From Latin "Puppis"- Stern of a boat. Other later derivations involve breaking waves and breaking wind.)
In 1922, Arthur Ransome commissioned the Gaff-Rigged Ketch "Racundra", in Latvia of all places, with the Galley to Port of the Companionway, and the Head, ("WC" in the drawings.), to Starboard. It also had a Writing Table; we know them as "Navigation Stations" these days. Very Modern. (The unnamed "Cook" in the books was Trotsky's then Secretary, and Ransome's future Wife.)

If the "Head" moves from its traditional position in the Bow, to somewhere close to the Stern, still calling it a "Head" doesn't make a lot of sense; maybe a Century from now, it will be called a "Tail", which when you think about it, is a much more logical name for the Pooper.

ČErindipity

(Oh, add Beneteau's First 29 from 1983 to the List. Aft Head, Aft Cabin, and a little tray in the Salon Sole to collect bread crumbs. See my Avatar.)
11-23-2015 06:42 PM
miatapaul
Re: Aft head boats

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobperry View Post
My client currently has a very nice Tartan 37. He has owned it for about four years. He uses the fireplace all the time. He has NEVER used the stove.
Note the micro wave and toaster oven to port adjacent to the galley.
Well your galleys always seem to work and given your mentions of some seriously good sounding food (and beverage) there is likely good reason for that! Seems it really takes someone who can mess about in the galley to be able to design one. That is already a must have in my next boat, good u shaped galley.
11-23-2015 04:39 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Aft head boats

Galley forward has the disadvantage of not having the companionway hatch essentially overhead for ventilation of cooking smoke & fumes. Almost guarantees a long run for stove fuel lines as well.

Head aft is the only way to go AFAIAC.
11-23-2015 02:37 PM
bobperry
Re: Aft head boats

My client currently has a very nice Tartan 37. He has owned it for about four years. He uses the fireplace all the time. He has NEVER used the stove.
Note the micro wave and toaster oven to port adjacent to the galley.
11-23-2015 02:28 PM
Faster
Re: Aft head boats

Our Choate 40 had a forward galley too.. advantages as we saw it, reduced motion at sea, and no interference with/from companionway traffic. Disadvantage was the galley slave's distance from the cockpit when handing out food/beverages and having to squeeze past them to go forward from there (head, Vberth). All in all, though, it worked fine for us.
11-23-2015 02:22 PM
Rhapsody-NS27
Re: Aft head boats

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobperry View Post
My newest client is adamant that the head be aft. This boat is a bit bigger than the ones in contention here but I thought you might be interested in this unusual layout.
It is unusual that the galley is that far forward too, at least to me. I have seen other boats with a forward galley but it doesn't seem common.

Interesting layout.
11-23-2015 02:01 PM
bobperry
Re: Aft head boats

My newest client is adamant that the head be aft. This boat is a bit bigger than the ones in contention here but I thought you might be interested in this unusual layout.
11-23-2015 12:41 PM
Barquito
Re: Aft head boats

Thanks Norm. I will add the ones that fit my (somewhat) arbitrary criteria of built 1990 or before, and 30-38 feet. I like the Mirage 30 (32).

Aft Head Boats:

Beneteau 331, 361
Catalina 320, 34
C&C Landfall 35, 38
Com-Pac 35
Elite 364
Ericson (Olson)34, 34-2, 38-200
Fastpassage 39
Freedom 32
Gozzard 36
Hughes Northstar 1500
Hunter 30-2, 32, 33, 35 Legend, 36 Vision, 37.5, Legend
Irwin 38cc
Jeanneau: Arcadia, Attalia, Aquila, Fantasia, Selection, Sunlight, Sunrise
Sunway Kirie Elite (most)
Mirage 30, 32
Niagra 35
Offshore 33
Pacific Seacraft 31
Pearson 32-200, 33-2, 38
S2 center cockpit models
Sabre 32(Tricabin), 38
Scanmar 33, 35
Southern Cross 39
Tashiba 31
Van de Sandt 34

There are some smaller boats (outsided of my original criterion of 30-38') that have aft heads:


Benetau First 235
Dana 24
Catalina 270, 28
Compac 27
Edel 820
Freedom 28
Hunter 260
J-28
Jeanneau Arcadia (Sun dream, Sunway)
Jeanneau Tonic
Morris Annie 29
Pearson 28-2
Shannon 28
Sirius 28
TES Magnam
Victoria 800 (Francis 26)
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome