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1 Week Ago 04:57 PM
SloopJonB
Re: C&C 29 - Mark 1 vs 2

According to the PHRF rating sheets I have C&C 27's have ratings of 174 to 201 depending while 29's have ratings of 171 to 183 depending.

I'd say the sailor is going to make more difference than the boat in a race
1 Week Ago 08:36 PM
Sanduskysailor
Re: C&C 29 - Mark 1 vs 2

Really!
"I have a 1979 C&C 27 MKIII with diesel and all I can say is that it was fun reeling in a C&C 29 (not sure which MK) and passing her on numerous legs of a Great Lakes cruise/race this season. Some folks can't tell the boats apart."




Frank, you didn't beat the 29 every race in the inter club cruise. Did you ever consider that the 29-2 you raced might not have been that well sailed?

Check these results for a 29-2 in a 26 mile race.

http://www.mhyc.us/boating/falcon/results/11.pdf

Note the elapsed time of Hey Jude and look at the much faster boats it beat on elapsed time including some with ratings in the 90s. That doesn't make it faster or the faster boats slower. The 29-2 sailed by a competent racer will smoke a 27-3 upwind and deep angles downwind. Reaching they are close in speed.
10-27-2014 10:19 PM
Wildguy
Re: C&C 29 - Mark 1 vs 2

Thank you for your information. Have a great winter.
10-26-2014 05:03 AM
doogymon
Re: C&C 29 - Mark 1 vs 2

I have a 1979 C&C 27 MKIII with diesel and all I can say is that it was fun reeling in a C&C 29 (not sure which MK) and passing her on numerous legs of a Great Lakes cruise/race this season. Some folks can't tell the boats apart.
10-26-2014 12:08 AM
FDR14127
Re: C&C 29 - Mark 1 vs 2

I think Ron's take is correct. In digging around I found this review posted when the boat (Mk I) was new so I suspect the numbers came from the builder.\

C&C29
BY WALLACE E. TOBIN
Published in Motor Boating & Sailing
June 1977

Tobin publishes the mast clearance as 43' 5" for the Mk I and my observation of my dock neighbor's MK II is that it is slightly lower. Of course your mileage will vary depending on the tide and water level. I would be wary of any bridge that was lower than 50 ft and that is pushing it.
10-25-2014 10:34 PM
Faster
Re: C&C 29 - Mark 1 vs 2

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Originally Posted by Wildguy View Post
Could you please provide the height of the mast on the 29-2 from the waterline to the top. Much appreciated, thank you.
The 29 mk1 is listed with an I of 39.5 and a bridge clearance of 45 feet. The Mk II has an I of 38.5, so the bridge clearance would be similar, possibly a few inches less but the cabintop is likely higher above the waterline so it's tough to say.


FDR14127:
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My IOR measurement certificate lists the I=39.9 and you have the headboard on top of that, maybe 8 to 10 inches from the black band to the top of the mast
The headboard height is included in the P measurement, and is included in the 'black band' height... the I measurement is to the top of the forestay, but from a horizontal line off the headsail tack fitting. So the I is the height above deck.. longer than the measurement to the cabintop - (ie the mast will be physically shorter than the 'I'.)

44-46 feet tops is likely the bridge clearance on either model. But if you want to use 60 feet, that's on the safe side!

Our 34 foot fractional rig with a P of 42 feet or so has a bridge clearance of 55 feet (so the gooseneck is 7 feet above the waterline give or take - it has more freeboard and a higher cabin house than either C&C 29). I suspect that the C&C 29 masthead will easily be 10 feet lower to the water
10-25-2014 10:12 PM
FDR14127
Re: C&C 29 - Mark 1 vs 2

I have often wondered myself, about the height of the mast. My IOR measurement certificate lists the I=39.9 and you have the headboard on top of that, maybe 8 to 10 inches from the black band to the top of the mast. I am 6 ft tall and when I stand toes in the water on the stern ladder I can't touch the end of the boom. Waterline to the boom must be eight to ten feet. So that would put the waterline to the top of the mast somewhere just over 60 ft n'est pas. On top of that I have a Metz VHF antenna that extends above the top of the mast maybe three or four feet. I must admit the closest to the bridge deck I have ever come was at Oak Orchard on Lake Ontario. But my chart application is on the boat, and I don't recollect the water level at the time. The antenna did not hit, but it looked close. You can check the harbor on the NOAA chart site and read up in the Pilot manual. If you find a definitive answer I would love to hear it......

Oh I see you are asking about the Mk II, guess you will have to find an owner.
10-25-2014 06:40 PM
Wildguy
Re: C&C 29 - Mark 1 vs 2

Could you please provide the height of the mast on the 29-2 from the waterline to the top. Much appreciated, thank you.
12-30-2013 04:51 PM
FrostKat
Re: C&C 29 - Mark 1 vs 2

The Mark 1 is fatter and more tender. Very fast in light air but so tender in heavy air. Loves to round up. Rudder needs to be bigger. More room than Mark 2.
02-10-2013 09:59 PM
mgb69
C&C 29 - Mark 1 vs 2

To update the discussion.
The C&C 29 Mk 1 that I was trying to see is off the market. No responses from seller when I was asking to see the boat.
I'm guessing it sold.
I'm sitting back a bit watching what is avail. Couple of nice looking C&C 30's that are not terribly far away. They might be a good fit.
I'll likely wait until summer when I can have the boat assessed on the water.
Thx for all the feedback.
Mark
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