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02-19-2013 06:05 PM
ShoalFinder
Re: Rhumb line between Key West and Galveston, TX

On the bright side, if nobody owns it and nobody will take responsibility for it...

Sounds like a fella could make some money with a workboat and some gas torches. Scrap steel is worth a lot of money right now.

Just kidding... or maybe not...
02-19-2013 03:10 PM
kellysails
Re: Rhumb line between Key West and Galveston, TX

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Originally Posted by smackdaddy View Post
But this is the kicker...maintained by whom? The guys I race with all come from the oil industry. According to them, the reason there are so many unlit rigs so close in is that many companies (big and small) went out over the years and tried to strike it rich. Most of them went bust, pulled out, and the company dissolved...leaving behind a hulk of steel that "no one" owns. So who can you go after to enforce the ongoing maintenance of the rig? Do we push that onto the CG? Do they have the budget?

It's not an easily solvable, nor inexpensive, problem.
That is crazy shocking! Oh, dare we criticize the the oil industry hence being labelled an anti big business socialist. The industry should clean up their own pond. ugh! And the government should take part of the lease fees to provide perpetual safety lighting on abandoned rigs and monitor for safe waterways.
02-19-2013 12:54 PM
rockDAWG
Re: Rhumb line between Key West and Galveston, TX

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Most of them went bust, pulled out, and the company dissolved...leaving behind a hulk of steel that "no one" owns. So who can you go after to enforce the ongoing maintenance of the rig? Do we push that onto the CG? Do they have the budget?

It's not an easily solvable, nor inexpensive, problem.
If the company went under. It will become a Federal problem that the we have pay the bill. It is unfortunate.
02-19-2013 12:50 PM
rockDAWG
Re: Rhumb line between Key West and Galveston, TX

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An axiom to remember

There are old sailors, and there are bold sailors; there are no old bold sailors.

Discretion is the better part of valour.

Great call.
Thanks.
It was a difficult, but timely decision.
02-19-2013 12:27 PM
smackdaddy
Re: Rhumb line between Key West and Galveston, TX

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If the platform is unmanned those lights are required to be maintained in working order at all times...
But this is the kicker...maintained by whom? The guys I race with all come from the oil industry. According to them, the reason there are so many unlit rigs so close in is that many companies (big and small) went out over the years and tried to strike it rich. Most of them went bust, pulled out, and the company dissolved...leaving behind a hulk of steel that "no one" owns. So who can you go after to enforce the ongoing maintenance of the rig? Do we push that onto the CG? Do they have the budget?

It's not an easily solvable, nor inexpensive, problem.
02-19-2013 12:17 PM
Boasun
Re: Rhumb line between Key West and Galveston, TX

If you do see an unlite platform, get its block number off the side of it and report it to the USCG. All Platforms are required to have working flashing lights on them. The lights are usually on the corners of the platform. Some are dimmed by the bird sh*t covering the lights. Report those also if you can.
If the platform is unmanned those lights are required to be maintained in working order at all times...
02-18-2013 11:21 PM
jackdale
Re: Rhumb line between Key West and Galveston, TX

An axiom to remember

There are old sailors, and there are bold sailors; there are no old bold sailors.

Discretion is the better part of valour.

Great call.
02-18-2013 10:21 PM
smackdaddy
Re: Rhumb line between Key West and Galveston, TX

Sounds like a wise move Dawg. Good call.
02-18-2013 08:52 PM
eherlihy
Re: Rhumb line between Key West and Galveston, TX

Thank you for the update. It is good to know that reason prevailed over the excitement of adventure.
02-18-2013 06:48 PM
chef2sail
Re: Rhumb line between Key West and Galveston, TX

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Originally Posted by rockDAWG View Post
BTW, thanks everyone's help, greatly appreciated. You inputs guided me to think and rethink and finally let me come out with my decision that I am comfortable with.
Sounds like a good decision as described. Glad you are safe.
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