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02-21-2013 08:52 AM
m2736185
Re: 19 foot Oday for crusing

I'm located in jacksonville, fl.

I found a tanzer 22 in southern fl for 1500. But it would proly cost the same price to have it transported to me. I think I might just go on the lookout for a cat 22 with trailer. Seems like it could handle some coastline sailing
02-20-2013 10:11 PM
fordo
Re: 19 foot Oday for crusing

A daysailor, like the Oday, is designed to be bailed if water comes aboard. Cruisers, no matter how small, are designed to shed water that comes aboard; that is why the cockpit sole is above the waterline, so the water will flow out the scuppers. The Oday is fine for day sailing, when you can choose the conditions, not for cruising,when you have to adapt to what comes.
02-20-2013 10:02 PM
sailguy40
Re: 19 foot Oday for crusing

@m2736185, where you located at? I am selling my Oday 22 which I would not hesitate to take out into the gulf for a week cruise to the barrier islands along the gulf coast. I have had her out in 20-25kt winds more then once already, single handed and just fine running on a main sail alone or just a 110. I have sailed a Macgregor 21 along the gulf coast before too, really fast boat and although it was ok, my Oday is way more solid. So I recommend get an Oday 22 if you can instead or better yet, a Cal 25. Some of the Cal 25's can be had for cheap and those are some really solid boats. None of these are full keeled boats though but I don't think you can get a full keel for 2K. If you do live around here and interested in my Oday, let me know because I can get close to that price. You can see pics on my profile.
02-20-2013 04:23 PM
denverd0n
Re: 19 foot Oday for crusing

I think the biggest difference is probably that you're in Maine. Here in Florida, there's a lot of skinny water. And a lot of ramps where the concrete ends before the water gets to be 30" deep.

And the OP is here in Florida, though up in the panhandle. Not certain what the ramps are like there, but it's definitely something to think about before buying a fixed-keel boat and then expecting to be able to launch it anywhere you might want to go.
02-20-2013 12:43 PM
DonScribner
Re: 19 foot Oday for crusing

Our Lancer 25 drafts 30". We have never not been able to launch. But, I have a roller trailer so that might make the difference. If I was smart (I think I've found the problem) I'd put a tongue extension on and really take care of the problem, but until then, I put my shoulder into the launch and winch like crazy to retrieve. The boat, loaded, is around 4000 lbs.
02-20-2013 08:31 AM
denverd0n
Re: 19 foot Oday for crusing

If you want to move it around on a trailer regularly then you really need to give up on a fixed keel and go for a swing keel. That is, unless you find some other boat that has a very, VERY shallow fixed keel.

The problem with anything more than about 2' of draft on a trailer is that a lot of ramps won't accommodate it. You will have to search around and find ramps that are deep enough. Kind of defeats the whole idea of being able to take the boat wherever you want.

I used to have a San Juan 23, which had a swing keel in a fixed stub, and a minimum draft of just a shade under 2'. Even at that, with a 4WD pickup truck to trailer it, there were still some ramps around Florida that I just could not launch and retrieve the boat from. The fixed-keel Catalina 22 has a 3.5' draft according to what I've read. You are going to find that only a small percentage of ramps will allow you to launch a boat like that.
02-20-2013 07:53 AM
chucklesR
Re: 19 foot Oday for crusing

I learned to sail on a Catalina 22, 1973.
It's not meant for open ocean passages of course, but with care and a serious eye on the weather it'll do for short hops along the coast.

When the kicker on it died we hung my 2.5hp Yamaha on the back. It still made 5.4 kts in flat water, which I would take as an indicator of how little sail it takes to get her to hull speed.
02-20-2013 06:08 AM
Sal Paradise
Re: 19 foot Oday for crusing

Quote:
Originally Posted by m2736185 View Post
Everyone seems to speak highly about the cat 22. Some people I have spoken with told me this was a low quality production boat that doesnt sail well and it always leaks from the keel. What do you guys think? I am new to sailing, but I dont want to purchase a boat I will out grow in months. Is the Cat 22 a nice trailerable boat that I can take to the lake and along coast and will move with 5 knot winds? I have sailed a cal 22 and it handles well in little wind.
I absolutely love mine. It will move in 5 knots, slowly. Other boats can outperform it in very light winds, but you can always get a 135% Genoa to help with that. Quality is good,if mine is any indication. Importantly, there are thousands out there for parts and a big aftermarket for the boat so you can always get parts.

Jeez its tough puttng up the mast! I wouldn't want to do anything bigger by hand alone. I have no leaks and mine is a 74. Size matters and the Cat 22 is just right. I mean for me and my wife its perfect and the pop top adds a lot of headroom. That really helps.
02-20-2013 05:25 AM
CatMan22
Re: 19 foot Oday for crusing

I think your quandary here is two fold, you are wanting a sailboat you can trailer to different locations and one you will not outgrow. I purchased a 1976 Catalina 22 last year moving up from Gale Force 20 that only had a cuddy cabin. The pros of the Catalina were she was trailerable, had a swing keel, was a very versatile boat I could sail in many locations and she did sail well if I didn't take her out in unreasonable weather. The cons were low head room in cabin, although the pop top was a nice feature while anchored and she had the dreaded Catalina soft deck which I think was more of a result of the previous owner and his lack of performance of any type of seasonal maintenance. I sold her last month after finding a Bayliner Buccaneer 21 with standing headroom in the cabin. Short answer to your question is I think you will outgrow a Cat 22, or any boat that size, if you are looking to use as you stated for extended periods of time. You may want to look in the 25 to 27 foot range where you'll find larger cabins with full head, galley and sleeping area while still trailerable.
02-20-2013 12:28 AM
m2736185
Re: 19 foot Oday for crusing

Everyone seems to speak highly about the cat 22. Some people I have spoken with told me this was a low quality production boat that doesnt sail well and it always leaks from the keel. What do you guys think? I am new to sailing, but I dont want to purchase a boat I will out grow in months. Is the Cat 22 a nice trailerable boat that I can take to the lake and along coast and will move with 5 knot winds? I have sailed a cal 22 and it handles well in little wind.
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