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06-18-2013 07:12 PM
Davenire
Re: Tips for dropping in an A-4?

I believe the words you wanted to use are "well rounded" or "cuddly"
04-09-2013 10:32 PM
Lubrdink
Re: Tips for dropping in an A-4?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Faster View Post
For the oil drain all you do is replace the pan drain plug with a fitting you can attach a hose to.. the hose can come up to the top of the block and be stored/attached to something to keep it high. You can add a plug at that end if you like.
I did this on mine. Brass plug with washer tapped into the trans inspection plate. Easy to stick the pump out tube in and slide it to the lowest spot of the crankcase. Usually quick and easy.


And here is why it needs to be easy. It's hard for fat boys to get under the cockpit and cozy up to the A4.
03-20-2013 07:45 AM
downeast450
Re: Tips for dropping in an A-4?

Quote:
Originally Posted by FDR14127 View Post
Moyer is your friend, things to do before you slide it in there:
Electronic ignition kit
Retrofit alternator with Moyer's beefier one, (Hey, VW canceled Motorola in frustration).
Fit the oil change kit to the pan fitting on the engine's port side
rig her with Moyer's electric fuel pump kit
Consider fitting new trick motor mounts that have fresh rubber to keep her quiet
Check the exhaust elbow, probably ought to be new
Buy some Marvel Mystery oil to add to the go juice and keep her valve guides happy
Any money left?,put the oil filter kit on...
Hire the engine guy that has the laser alignment kit to help slide her in
Enjoy the smooth quiet of an A4 loved and happy....
Oh and another thing, just about everyone around here adds the plastic coupling to the shaft which helps mitigate the alignment problem and protect the engine assemble in case of grounding, line wraps and the like.
All of the above! I am not familiar with the "plastic coupling" FDR can you steer me to an information source. I am getting ready to replace my cutlass bearing and will need a new shaft coupling. It is my plan to buy the split coupling from Moyer.

Thanks,

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03-17-2013 10:19 PM
John B
Re: Tips for dropping in an A-4?

I agree with the previous post the people at Moyer Marine are great.Don Moyer is very helpful and will walk you through it.
03-16-2013 02:46 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Tips for dropping in an A-4?

All good advice. $$$ though. I estimated the best part of a boat buck for all that.

If it was my boat I certainly do it while changing the engine though.
03-16-2013 12:03 PM
FDR14127
Re: Tips for dropping in an A-4?

Moyer is your friend, things to do before you slide it in there:
Electronic ignition kit
Retrofit alternator with Moyer's beefier one, (Hey, VW canceled Motorola in frustration).
Fit the oil change kit to the pan fitting on the engine's port side
rig her with Moyer's electric fuel pump kit
Consider fitting new trick motor mounts that have fresh rubber to keep her quiet
Check the exhaust elbow, probably ought to be new
Buy some Marvel Mystery oil to add to the go juice and keep her valve guides happy
Any money left?,put the oil filter kit on...
Hire the engine guy that has the laser alignment kit to help slide her in
Enjoy the smooth quiet of an A4 loved and happy....
Oh and another thing, just about everyone around here adds the plastic coupling to the shaft which helps mitigate the alignment problem and protect the engine assemble in case of grounding, line wraps and the like.
03-14-2013 03:05 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Tips for dropping in an A-4?

It also gives you the opportunity to reconfigure things for easier access - inaccessible fuel filters, rerouting wiring & hoses so they are neat and out of the way etc. etc.

When the boat was built all those were done to be fast & cheap in nearly all cases - serviceability was seldom considered.

Your time is now.

By the way, if you have to add some steel angle to reinforce your mounts & so forth, pay the $2 and use stainless so you don't end up with a bunch of rust in a few years. If you're as OCD as me, sand it smooth & polish it before installing it.
03-14-2013 11:05 AM
PorFin
Re: Tips for dropping in an A-4?

Quote:
Originally Posted by taylor_sf View Post
The compartment is pretty clean.
Taylor,

I'm in full agreement with others who recommend attending to your engine spaces before you install the new motor.

"Pretty clean" is good; spotless is better. Think about it. You are never again going to have the relatively unfettered access to this area (unless you pull the motor again.) "Pretty clean" today means "getting grungy" not too long in the future. If you start from spotless, then grungy is much, much further down the road.
03-14-2013 03:42 AM
Capt Len
Re: Tips for dropping in an A-4?

I bet you can get better accuracy with a feeler gauge .
03-13-2013 01:06 PM
downeast450
Re: Tips for dropping in an A-4?

I did this a couple of years ago. Starting with the old engine in place I took lots of pictures for reference.

I should have replaced the exhaust at the same time! O-well! That is done now. I did clean and paint everything with the engine out. I added a fw heat exchanger so locating and installing that got consideration with the engine out of the way. My boat, an I-28, has a fg engine bed and was sound as were the mounts. I used a couple of pieces of angle iron to act as rails to slide the rebuilt into position. Blocking and jacks helped. I did it alone.

Alignment was a concern but once I had the rebuilt back on its undisturbed engine mounts I checked it with a "trick" used around here. Three bolts secure the shaft coupling to the transmission flange. I took three small pieces of paper and placed them against the transmission flange between the bolt holes. I rotated the shaft and waited for one of the scraps of paper (the surfaces were clean and dry) to fall out because of an alignment issue. I repeated this "test" several times and all three pieces were firmly held in place by the coupling. Satisfied that things were fairly close I tightened things up and have had no problems.

Good luck.

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