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03-13-2013 03:07 PM
Re: new California tax?

chuckles, I don't disagree with you, I just note that "slow speed chase" describes about the fastest a sailboat is going to go.

Of course, if you have a bigger faster one, and can wait for stormy weather and a nearby border with no plans of coming back...

Thta's how all those b-grade women's chain gang movies get started, right? :-)
03-13-2013 02:27 PM
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Easy to cut a chain in the middle of the night and sail off.

"gee officer, I got home at midnight and found a chain laying on the dock. Was it your chain?"

those words won't get spoken when you 110 miles off shore on way to your next hangout.

I'm not saying run from the law, but if you / your boat wasn't there for 90 days, and no intent on being there later - sometimes OOPS is easier than fighting a clerk in a county revenue raiser chair.
03-13-2013 12:40 PM
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What, the CHAIN part isn't enforcement? They can it, and if no one pays, they auction it. You cut the chain, and they'll bill you for a new chain, too.

Cali isn't the only state that has a property tax. Some have it on personal property, some have it on business inventory AND business property. Taking inventory on January 1st is pretty common, which is why reason why some businesses have end-of-year clearance sales, to get rid of the inventory before it gets taxed.

Bottom line is that it costs money to run a state, the ones that tax less are sometimes more efficient but often simply provide fewer "services".
03-13-2013 11:27 AM
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I was hoping they'd just a pop rivet, but a nail would be easier.

I was speaking more towards enforcing it.
03-13-2013 11:19 AM
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"How exactly would they put a lien on a boat that doesn't have a state registration on it,"
Who needs a lien? Under admiralty law, you physically "arrest the boat" and literally nail the lien notice to the main mast while "arresting" the boat by physically chaining it to the dock.
One hopes that they'd use scotch tape instead of a nail these days, but, you know, tradition!
03-13-2013 11:01 AM
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in any county run marina you are not going to get a slip unless the boat registration, insurance and users ID match up so they will have a place to send you the bill. also will be responsible for the property tax on the slip you are now renting from the county. this is all disclosed when you sign up for a slip. this does not apply to overnight stays less then 90 days.
03-13-2013 10:54 AM
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How exactly would they put a lien on a boat that doesn't have a state registration on it, just a (in this case) set of Canadian numbers - or in the case of (for example) my USCG boat that does not display state numbers, just a sticker saying I paid my Maryland registration?

I mean, they have no name, no address etc..
03-13-2013 10:48 AM
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Windward, foreign-flagged boats, which have been allowed into the US on a limited cruising permit, are exempted from US state vessel registration and taxation laws, AFAIK.

To discuss a "Canadian" boat, which ordinarily means Canadian-flagged and present in the US under a federal cruising permit, as if it were a domestic vessel, is misleading at best. I'd be certain that California can't tax foreigners or foreign vessels that way, the States are legally barred from doing many things when it comes to foreign people and places. And vessels.

Some nimrod with a summons pad might issue one, but who's he going to issue it to? A Canadian national that he can't enforce a summons on?

All pointless if the OP doesn't come back and fill in the rest of the blanks.
03-13-2013 10:44 AM
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You can appeal but the bill must be paid first before they will hear the appeal
03-13-2013 10:27 AM
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California collects personal property tax on every boat that resides in the State, regardless of residency. So if the boat is docked or moored in California on January 1st, and has been there over 90 days, you get a tax bill. Of course the dock walkers will assume any boat that they see has been there longer then the 90 days and the local county will send a bill. The owner then has to appeal.
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