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04-01-2013 02:53 PM
Re: Sailboat under $5000 for Puget Sound

The ferry is $25 one way if like my crewcab dually pickup that is justover 22'long, otherwise, yes about $13 one way for a car/vehicle under 22'. Or the van I drive is over 7'6", 3" over 22' so that is a triple whammy at upwards of $40 depending upon who is in the pay shack. Then driving my dumptruck with equipment trailer that is in the 50+ foot range, about $70 or so one way! I get all of 15-18 mpg in my ,pickup, van is 20-22, so 240 miles of driving is 10-15 gals, or $40-70 depending upon how much diesel is that day..........Wifes suv is $13-15 ferry fee depending upon summer vs winter fare cost. Going around tacome will net you more cost yet by about double vs taking a ferry. From winslow on bainbridge, it is 110 miles to lk union, vs 4 driving plus 9 miles on teh ferry. including the ferry fare. fuel netting you at 20 mpg will cost you more than the ferry fare etc, along with 2.5 hrs of driving vs maybe 1 overall on the ferry etc. Driving in general, does not pay to go around. Then east bound on the hwy 16 bridge, ie tecoma narrows, you have a $5 or so bridge fee, you donot pay west bound. Foot traffic onthe ferry is free east bound, pay west bound, including passengers in the car are extra west. kingston-edmonds might be the better run, but doing the bike part would be tougher than winslow if you wanted to do it that way.

Not worth the trip for some things, others yes. A road bike will get you somewhere easy. For that purpose, shilshoal would be a cake walk. take the old train trail ie burk-gilman from shilshoal, its all level to the fisheries store! 5'ish miles or so.

No right or wrong on how to get somewhere per say.......still not a simple lets just run into seattle from PT! Even from my house in edmonds,going to in-laws in PAngelas is simple, but still not simple! I'm 10 min from that terminal! Bremerton is easier to get to from a ferry than driving around.........When I did a bunch of workon bainbridge, I took the ferry at $25 twice daily, had to build it into the job cost, same with a vashion one, and one up in the SJ' that was a PITA, including barges to get tothe actual island as it did not have ferry service!

04-01-2013 12:32 PM
Alex W
Re: Sailboat under $5000 for Puget Sound

The ferry is $13 each way for a normal car. It is $9 for a bike, and bikes only pay in one direction. Fuel costs depend on your car, but it is about 120 miles round trip of driving to get from PT back to a Seattle-bound ferry, so on my gas-guzzling Subaru car that is about $25 round trip in fuel costs.

PT to Shilshole is one reasonable length day of sailing. It's a pretty good loop to go one way through Admiralty Inlet, and another through Saratoga Passage and out through Deception Pass (that puts you closer to the San Juans then to PT). There are some nice islands to anchor out by or camp at near Deception Pass, check out Hope Island and Skagit Island.

You need to time the currents when coming down Admiralty Inlet. It's pretty gentle through Saratoga Passage. Do Saratoga Passage soon and you'll probably see gray whales.
04-01-2013 12:17 PM
Re: Sailboat under $5000 for Puget Sound

I have my entire v berth taken up with a road bike so I can get anywhere! Anywhere they let me bring it inside that is...

The ferry is 25-30$? I thought like five. I figured people took their car on it round trip to work everyday. I would drive to Tacoma then up.

Yeah, definitely not to save a few bucks. But once I leave PT I'm going north. I would like to see Seattle.
04-01-2013 11:43 AM
Alex W
Re: Sailboat under $5000 for Puget Sound

Shilshole has (or had, call to double check) a shuttle to Ballard. From there you can take the 40 bus right to Fisheries Supply. Public transit in Seattle is pretty easy and inexpensive.

You can't anchor off of Gasworks park, it is illegal to anchor in Lake Union without a permit unless it is between noon and 8am on July 4th and 5th. There might be guest moorage at one of the marinas along there.

If coming into town for a visit I think I'd suggest Bell Harbor Marina (downtown) over Shilshole, there is a lot more to walk to (but you'd have to bus to marine supply stores). Shilshole has good access if you have a folding bike onboard, but not much to walk to.
04-01-2013 11:31 AM
Re: Sailboat under $5000 for Puget Sound

IF he is coming to seattle, true a mute point. BUT< to get to fisheries by boat, one will need a taxi or equal, WM shilshoal one can walk...but why come to seattle to go there, might as well use the PT store. I supposed as I am writing this, one can take the locks, anchor off of the park, then walk thru it to fisheries......still a lot of work when one can order locally in PT and have delivered a few days a week as part of that companies normal delivery van routes thruout the sound. Or the same with WM's PS supply van to places like longship in poulsbo etc.

If driving down here. that is a different story, but it still will take a day, a ben or two just for fuel and ferry cost etc...........

It is worth and fun to take trips to places like fisheries, harbor marin in everett etc. It is generally speaking, not worth a trip to save a few bucks per say. Thelocal marine supply be it a WM or individual store can be the cheaper way! better to spend bucks local sometimes. If the OP is out of work, talk to the mgr at the PT WM, get a part time jobthere, one gets 10-50% off retail as part of employee need to travel!

04-01-2013 10:59 AM
Alex W
Re: Sailboat under $5000 for Puget Sound

Completely true Marty. It sounded like he was heading here anyway for social purposes (perhaps by sailboat, which is kind of the point).
04-01-2013 10:23 AM
Re: Sailboat under $5000 for Puget Sound

You do not HAVE to come to seattle to find a marine store. You do not even have to leave PT! A catalog/website from either fisheries or wm, a trip to see Aaron at Longship marine in poulsbo, and you have what ever part item you need getting to poulsbo! Same with the WM in PT, you can order out of that catalong, and it can come to you weekly on the warehouse truck. as long as you get the order in two days before. You can find the date out by going in there and asking. Fisheries delivers to PT also, I know the gas dock owner can order from them, not sure who else in PT can either. You do not HAVE to come to seattle and spend upwards of $30-40 in fuel and another $25-30 in ferry fares!

Some stuff it is nice to hand feel, others you just need to order the best way to get it to you. So popping into the PT WM could get you the hands on feel....order from them per say....or spend for me any how, 5-6 gals of diesel one way, $25 one way due to truck length on the ferry.......WM's prices or a trip to Longship at worst in Pouslbo become pretty cheap to order and not get the BEST price.

Lenore who is the mgr at WM in PT will take good care of you. Do not remember the fuel docks persons name off the top of my head. Aaron at Longship will also take care of you. He has about 400 people that have stuff at his shop on consignment. He gets once to twice weekly deliveries from both fisheries and WM's wholesale side.

Second wave you can also look online to see some of what they have. then decide if it is worth having shipped fedex, or going and getting.

If you get to Everett, there is another store "harbor marine"?!?!?! on the north end of the marina that is pretty large, and Popeye's has a mixture of new and used stuff also. Anacortes also has a mixture of marine places.
04-01-2013 12:22 AM
Alex W
Re: Sailboat under $5000 for Puget Sound

No, the best sailing store in this area is Fisheries Supply.

Second Wave and the store in Pouslbo have used stuff and are worth checking out. There is also a used store in Port Townsend (near Boathaven), but it's not very good.

I find little reason to go to West Marine, Fisheries has a much better selection and better prices. Open a new account and you get preferential pricing that will probably last you through the summer. Almost all local club members also get discounted pricing. The discounted prices are cheaper than almost anything you can find online (with the exception of electronics, their electronics prices are steep for some reason).
03-31-2013 11:57 PM
Re: Sailboat under $5000 for Puget Sound

Sounds good. I'd like to I to second wave just to take a look.

So the best sailing stores are west marines, second wave in Seattle, and a place in Poulsbo. Any others in Seattle?
03-31-2013 12:19 PM
Alex W
Re: Sailboat under $5000 for Puget Sound

You can check the Second Wave stock at They do negotiate if pricing seems high and they have a lot of stock, I recently got a Fortress FX-18 (which I'm using as my secondary anchor) price knocked down $25 just by asking.

There is also a used boat supply place in Poulsbo, another good place to try anchoring and a nice little town. It's much smaller than Second Wave, but still pretty nice.

You are correct that there isn't much along the Whidbey side. Sail down it and you'll see why. It is mostly cliffs right into the water.
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