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04-01-2013 01:29 PM
svHyLyte
Re: Wind indicator NOT for mast top

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Originally Posted by claudino View Post
On my O'day 27 i do not have a wind indicator and i'm planning to get one but i just don't want the trouble to install it on mast top.

I'm not racing, so i just want something simple affordable trouble-less.

I saw a couple of things that look OK :

1) Wind-Tels from Davis (shroud mounted)
2) Sailsteady (this is deck-mounted, flexible, mostly for lasers but i was wondering if it would be OK also for a bigger boat). Practical Sailor magazine talks a bit about it in the last issue.


Any recommendatation?

many thanks
Why not simply mount a pennant staff on your bow pulpit and find a small light-weight pennant that you like to fly as a windex or, for that matter, mount a windex arrowhead on the top of the thing?
04-01-2013 11:26 AM
Capt.aaron
Re: Wind indicator NOT for mast top

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Originally Posted by claudino View Post
Checked the WestMarine catalog: not sure why, they don't carry those.


Thanks a lot for all the answers. I learned a lot just reading those.

I like Capt.aaron approach, but at the same time i'd like something to verify that approach. Otherwise i'll never know how close i am to read the wind right. I'll get some practice , some experience using the tales and wind-tells (and maybe later the windex) and when i'll feel good about it I'll become a complete Capt.aaron follower, using only my senses.
Discailmer,
Keep in mind, I'm a sloppy lazy cruiser who is happy at 5 knots when I could probably be going 5.3 with a little bit more tenacity. I don't really go out sailing around the bay for fun very often unless it's a chater taking other people for fun. I shake down the boat and do passages and delivery's, I only ever race the tide and weather, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.
04-01-2013 11:16 AM
Roger Long
Re: Wind indicator NOT for mast top

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I'll get some practice , some experience using the tales and wind-tells (and maybe later the windex) and when i'll feel good about it I'll become a complete Capt.aaron follower, using only my senses.
Although it's hard to sail exactly this way in a small boat, even a 30 footer, this article will should give you some good idea of the principles involved and help you understand what your senses are trying to tell you:

Points East, the New England Cruising Magazine
04-01-2013 10:48 AM
claudino
Re: Wind indicator NOT for mast top

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Originally Posted by Roger Long View Post
I suggest one like this:


Checked the WestMarine catalog: not sure why, they don't carry those.


Thanks a lot for all the answers. I learned a lot just reading those.

I like Capt.aaron approach, but at the same time i'd like something to verify that approach. Otherwise i'll never know how close i am to read the wind right. I'll get some practice , some experience using the tales and wind-tells (and maybe later the windex) and when i'll feel good about it I'll become a complete Capt.aaron follower, using only my senses.
03-31-2013 10:54 AM
Capt.aaron
Re: Wind indicator NOT for mast top

I sailed with on of those all through my 20's. looked just like that 'cept she had a bigger nose. She also was the best auto helm I ever had. Seroulsly she could steer with her foot in a 6 foot following sea, reading a book and eating an apple. Priceless.
03-31-2013 08:36 AM
Roger Long
Re: Wind indicator NOT for mast top

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Any recommendatation?
I suggest one like this:

03-31-2013 12:56 AM
Sabreman
Re: Wind indicator NOT for mast top

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Maybe I'm not sophisticated enough to use just the tall-tales, but I prefer to have both those and the Windex.
You're plenty sophisticated if you realize that you need both. Tell tales tell you if you're trimmed properly. The windex tells you whether you're headed or lifted. So when the tell tales go flat, you glance at the windex and know why. Several seconds later the knot meter will catch up and show you slowing. A minute after that, the GPS will finally get around to telling you that you're slow.

Tell tales and windex provide the most bang for the buck of any performance instrument on the boat. By far.

BTW - Tell Tales on the mainsail's leech are about the only way to tell if the main is stalled or trimmed correctly. People often assume that the jib is the only sail that gets tell tales.
03-30-2013 07:35 PM
Capt.aaron
Re: Wind indicator NOT for mast top

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I guess I became hooked on telltales when I had my Lightning. They are great little boats for learning about sail tuning because you can really see and feel the results of sail adjustments more-so than on a heavy displacement boat. Aaron, you ever run into a guy named Pete Pedersen. He's an old buddy who now lives down your way, has a 40' Blackfin out of Cudjo.
I bet I know some one who know's some one who know's him. Thing is about the lower Key's, we all know each other by sight. We recognize each other.
" I've seen you around" is the common introduction when we meet.
03-30-2013 07:33 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Wind indicator NOT for mast top

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I guess I'm a sloppy lazy sailor. I get my sails trimmed by looking at their shape, my angle of list, and my seed. If I'm moving along at good clip, bone in my teeth, I'm happy. Never really paid too much attention to the riibons.
You need to ratchet up your level of OCD. When the wind is as consistently light as it is here in the summer, you look for every bit of performance you can get.
03-30-2013 07:10 PM
smurphny
Re: Wind indicator NOT for mast top

I guess I became hooked on telltales when I had my Lightning. They are great little boats for learning about sail tuning because you can really see and feel the results of sail adjustments more-so than on a heavy displacement boat. Aaron, you ever run into a guy named Pete Pedersen. He's an old buddy who now lives down your way, has a 40' Blackfin out of Cudjo.
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