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03-10-2016 06:53 PM
captainroy
Re: Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008

Ray, my name is Roy. .Roy, I Built Full Sail In British Columbia Canada a few years ago my phone number is 604 846 5781 would like to have a word with you if you don't mind, thanks, Roy Robinson .
01-13-2016 09:39 PM
cshrimpt
Re: Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008

You have Pacific Seacraft marked as out of business. They are still building boats using W.I.B. Crealock's designs, albeit under new management.

-C
01-13-2016 08:30 PM
miatapaul
Re: Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008

Quote:
Originally Posted by antonroberts007@gmail.com View Post
Thanks for updates. Interesting also that no Hans Christian's are listed. The 33's in particular are known for there blue-water prowess. I have a HC38T and after many miles I trust her with my life! Comfortable too, and built like a tank. Performance is moderate, but she will always arrive!
Any list is going to leave some off, no matter how complete. Seems that no matter what the chances it will be left off goes way up if you happen to own that boat! Hans Christians are pretty pretty boats, and very capable! I would not hesitate taking one around the world if I knew her to be well found.
01-13-2016 03:45 PM
Prinsloo007
Re: Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008

Thanks for updates. Interesting also that no Hans Christian's are listed. The 33's in particular are known for there blue-water prowess. I have a HC38T and after many miles I trust her with my life! Comfortable too, and built like a tank. Performance is moderate, but she will always arrive!
09-17-2015 07:48 AM
outbound
Re: Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008

Steve-
I'm delighted you posted. As you know you and Tracy are a inspiration to Cheryl. When we talk about our plans and she gets apprehensive having her know about your extensive voyaging gives her a shot of courage. As you know from ski team fortunately she already has great courage but that extra jolt is quite helpful.
My final list was Boreal and Outbound. Cheryl was put off by what she thought was the complexity of the boat. She didn't want to deal with daggerboards, center boards and the like. Even now she doesn't like dealing with running backs ( only used on passage), vangs, hydraulic back stay and it remains my job to trim those.
Still, I often wonder about the Boreal once they agreed to put in a more American style galley and spec to U.S. standards it was truly a 50/50 choice for me.
You point out a key attribute for a good cruising boat. Just went to the SDR seminars yesterday. Lecturers on sail plan had pointed out on passage and circumnavigating 63% of the time is spent with wind 90-160 degrees apparent with winds 10-25k true.
Your boat with its leeboard down and my boat given its fine entry and exit track with no squirrelnest. Beyond favorable gyradius ( you have your chain next to the mast- I have all tanks below sole near center of gravity) I think hull design that minimizes cork screwing is as important as the absence of slamming and pounding up wind.
Leaving for a week with Cheryl. She has lost the drama queen persona coming into new anchorages so should be great fun now school has started and the world will be our own.
09-15-2015 11:07 AM
hannah2
Re: Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008

Thanks Miatapaul for the correction, I sometimes see things I really didn't see.
09-14-2015 06:57 PM
miatapaul
Re: Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008

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Originally Posted by hannah2 View Post
Chall03, Nice to have you on board. There are enough Boreals out there now that I don't know everyone. PM me sometime, I'd love to hear more of your boat.

First, on the list that John made. He does update it when he gets info on a boat he thinks should be on the list. He had a client that was interested in a Boreal and contacted my wife Tracy about how we liked our Boreal. We also met with John and Amada for a brief visit down in Panama and talked some more about the Boreal and that was a great visit.

Outbound, The mystery of owning an aluminum boat is now gone as we have had ours for a couple of years now. All the worry about corrosion have past. We have left the boat on the hard in Panama as a precaution to a bad marina. Not that the marina we are at has a bad problem but just in case a boat with bad power moved in beside us. There are plenty of aluminum boats still being left at a slip unattended for the summer season. Most of these aluminum boats are from Europe and the Europeans are more confident that their boat will not corrode if left at a slip. In Europe most marinas have lousy power and they never seem to have a problem. So I guess what I'm saying is this type of boat is a lot tougher than what a lot of people say about them here in N. America. If anyone has ever been commercial fishing in Alaska on an aluminum boat you will know that they have a habit of throwing old steel blocks in the bilge and they stay there for 20 years or so, still no problem.

As for the Boreal itself. What Chall03 says, "a seriously nice boat". The design is amazing as she does passages across oceans in an amazing sea kindly way. Withe lee dagger board down there is no wobble of the ass end that you get on many cutter rigs on a long broad reach. The aluminum is quiet beyond belief with its 3 inches of insulation. And she goes to weather very nicely for a centerboard boat. Also she heaves to better than any boat I have sailed on in the last 40 years.

Cheers
Steve and Tracy
I think Chall03 was saying he has Boreal envy, not a Boreal named Envy! They are beautiful boats though. If i were on a much bigger budget they would be on the top of the list.
09-14-2015 02:04 PM
hannah2
Re: Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008

Chall03, Nice to have you on board. There are enough Boreals out there now that I don't know everyone. PM me sometime, I'd love to hear more of your boat.

First, on the list that John made. He does update it when he gets info on a boat he thinks should be on the list. He had a client that was interested in a Boreal and contacted my wife Tracy about how we liked our Boreal. We also met with John and Amada for a brief visit down in Panama and talked some more about the Boreal and that was a great visit.

Outbound, The mystery of owning an aluminum boat is now gone as we have had ours for a couple of years now. All the worry about corrosion have past. We have left the boat on the hard in Panama as a precaution to a bad marina. Not that the marina we are at has a bad problem but just in case a boat with bad power moved in beside us. There are plenty of aluminum boats still being left at a slip unattended for the summer season. Most of these aluminum boats are from Europe and the Europeans are more confident that their boat will not corrode if left at a slip. In Europe most marinas have lousy power and they never seem to have a problem. So I guess what I'm saying is this type of boat is a lot tougher than what a lot of people say about them here in N. America. If anyone has ever been commercial fishing in Alaska on an aluminum boat you will know that they have a habit of throwing old steel blocks in the bilge and they stay there for 20 years or so, still no problem.

As for the Boreal itself. What Chall03 says, "a seriously nice boat". The design is amazing as she does passages across oceans in an amazing sea kindly way. Withe lee dagger board down there is no wobble of the ass end that you get on many cutter rigs on a long broad reach. The aluminum is quiet beyond belief with its 3 inches of insulation. And she goes to weather very nicely for a centerboard boat. Also she heaves to better than any boat I have sailed on in the last 40 years.

Cheers
Steve and Tracy
09-11-2015 08:39 AM
robert sailor
Re: Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008

One real advantage to aluminum is that you can create a one off of custom design/build at reasonable costs compared to glass. There are other advantages as well but if I was shopping for a custom one off I would go with aluminum
09-11-2015 07:41 AM
chall03
Re: Updated Offshore Cruising Boat List - January 2008

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Originally Posted by outbound View Post
Sure be curious about Steve's opinion on metal v. glass. He has cruised extensively in glass ( mason 44) and now in metal ( Boreal 44).
+1

I also have Boreal Envy. They are seriously nice boats.
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