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01-24-2007 12:25 AM
LWinters
Don't Wait: Even if you start now it could be a years before you go....

I just turned 30, bought my boat, and have loved every minute of the pain and expense of running her aground, dealing with the leaking packing gland, breaking the proplock, and almost taking out a million dollar catamaran. The point is, owning my own boat and going through the growing pains are really the only way I am going to get ready for cruising. A friend sent me an email from a blog of a guy who waited a little too long. He missed his window. http://westerlynomad.blogspot.com/ I used this blog as even more motivation to get going.

I've been exploring how people make the decision personally to take trips like this be it cruising, mountain climbing, or backpacking. Steve Jobs of Apple said it about better than anyone else I've found. A little long, but worth the read.

When I was seventeen, I read a quote that went something like “If you live each day as if it was your last, someday you’ll most certainly be right”. It made an impression on me, and since then, for the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself, “If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?” And whenever the answer has been no for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something.

Remembering that I’ll be dead soon is the most important tool I’ve ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything – all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure—these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.

Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new. Right now the new is you, but someday not too long form now, you will gradually become the old and be cleared away.

–Steve Jobs
01-11-2007 11:04 PM
Newport41 Kananumpua,
The reason I can afford to buy a 41 ft boat and refit it for offshore at 24 is because my Mommy and Daddy are rich and give me everything. Just kidding. I'm a Forest Firefighter. I work for the provincial government in British Columbia, Canada. Because of the terrain we have in B.C. our forest firefighters are a little better trained than most other fire crews and thus a little better paid. There's nothing complicated about it. I have a good job,I work hard, I'm good at what I do, and I'm good with my money. As far as crewing, well if you're serious about taking a boat offshore is sounds like you might want to get some more relivant experience but that's easy to find. You might not be able to get paid for it but there is no lack of opportunity in any well cruised area for a young guy to get some bluewater experience. I've been sailing my whole life. I'm a Canadian Yachting Association instructor but I don;t have any other tickets or licenses other than that. I believe sailing is partly experience and knowledge but largely your ability to deal with things as they come up. Common sense and inginuity. I think if you're even thinking about cruising in a few years you should go for it. I was a little unsure about taking off when i should be starting a career but now I'm confident in my decision. Thirty isn't what it used to be.
01-11-2007 07:27 PM
snider
Good plan

Quote:
Originally Posted by kananumpua
So I plan on working for at least 5 years after I graduate to build up my “kitty” because I would rather err on the safe side as far as the financial aspect goes as well as give myself some more time to research, learn, test and retry.
You sound like me five years ago...lol. I did the same with school because I always wanted to have something solid to fall back on. Four more months until graduation...woohooo! Then It's, buy a boat, outfit for a year, and off I go! It has flown buy, and I have spent almost every day since researching boats and reading books. Between semesters and on the weekends I've been sailing as much as possible. Started out racing every other weekend to, and you're right, what a great crash course in sailing. From the people I've met racing have come some great offshore opportunities, deliveries up and down the coast, Daytona-Charleston race and it's looking like I've got a ride for Charleston-Bermuda this year. I'm glad I waited, It has only solidified the decision to liveaboard and cruise. It's funny, five years ago when I told everyone my plan to quit a well paying job to go back to school so I could by a boat to live on and cruise. No one belived me, and everyone was skeptical, even my Dad, he thougth I was crazy! He sure is proud now, and everyone else is envious. Funny how it worked out. Good Luck, Brandon
01-11-2007 12:23 PM
kananumpua First off, thank you Newport for starting this thread, and thanks to all you other members for keeping it going and as always providing insightful knowledge.

I too have been struggling with this cruising idea sense Christmas of ‘05 when I went with my girlfriends family as they chartered a ketch in the BVI's for 10 days. It was the best time of my life. Well no **** as I am sure most of you are thinking. Beautiful weather, scenery and water, how could one not enjoy it. While all this is true it was the beauty of sailing and simplicity of the lifestyle of the captain as well as the other folks that we met that really took hold of me. Coincidentally, Just before I went on that trip I stumbled across a great deal on a 25ft “gunkholer” that I intended on turning for a profit. Needless to say I couldn’t part with the boat and still have it. I had no real experience sailing other than sailing a Prindle when I was much younger, and by boating experience has only been with motorboats my whole life. My parents had me “cruising” up and down the ICW @ 8 months of age in a wee little 21ft sea ray and for the last few years I have been working on a local party/charter boat on the lake. Anyhow, I hooked up with some local club racers and have been crewing in every possible regatta or race for anyone in the need. Talk about a crash course in learning to sail. Thankfully I have crewed for some great skippers and they have proved to be a great source of knowledge as well as great friends.

I am 20 now and I feel the pressure more now than ever to start seriously preparing for the infamous “plunge”. However I still have two more years of college which is now my main priority. Here lies one of my dilemmas. As an engineering student all the profs and recruiters really emphasize how important real world experience is and employers want at least 3 years experience before they will even talk to you. So I plan on working for at least 5 years after I graduate to build up my “kitty” because I would rather err on the safe side as far as the financial aspect goes as well as give myself some more time to research, learn, test and retry. Thankfully I have a girlfriend of 3 ½ years who is just as enthusiastic as I am about this whole sailing lifestyle.

Newport
How did you do become financially sound if you don’t mind me asking? Also I too have been considering the crewing possibility but how does one get involved? I have enough time to get a 100ton master captains license (in shore though), is something like that necessary?

SeaStrutter
Your post about taking a boat and traveling around instead of back packing really hit home with me. Thanks.

Longwaterline
Your post also impacted me. I use to fear bankruptcy as I knew it to be in later life but now I fear a bankrupt life.

And best of luck to JustinC25, Deckhanddave, & Garett

WOW, Sorry that this has become a rant and I don’t really know where I was going but I appreciate all of your input and maybe someone can slap me out of this dream or some advice would be nice.
01-08-2007 10:01 PM
Garett
Hey, I'm Only 16!

Don't lose hope for the sailing youth yet~ I'm 16 and I've already built two boats and am preparing to possibly work on a tall ship during the summer!
01-08-2007 03:25 AM
deckhanddave I hear you William. I'm 22 and graduating in a few months. After that its an extensive rebuild of my T30 and off I go (hopefully). Great thread.

But sniper, I have to say; a hummer and a sailboat... well I guess you could think that they cancel each other out... a different frame of mind from most of the posts at the very least.
01-07-2007 10:41 PM
marinesniper
31 and lovin sailing...

I am 31 years old and love to cruise. I am a sales engineer out of Miami. I am very athletic, I drive a Hummer and go night clubing...

I had a choice to buy an Sailboat or an SeaDoo 410 HP...I thought about it, took some sailing lessons and bought a boat 3 weeks later....

Never a regret and I go to work on or perform upgrades on it every other day or so...!!!
01-04-2007 02:51 PM
longwaterline Wanderer



A Quote From Sterling Hayden's Book, Wanderer


To be truly challenging, a voyage, like a life, must rest on a firm foundation of financial unrest. Otherwise, you are doomed to a routine traverse, the kind known to yachtsmen who play with their boats at sea... cruising it is called. Voyaging belongs to seamen, and to the wanderers of the world who cannot, or will not, fit in. If you are contemplating a voyage and you have the means, abandon the venture until your fortunes change. Only then will you know what the sea is all about.

I've always wanted to sail to the south seas, but I can't afford it." What these men can't afford is not to go. They are enmeshed in the cancerous discipline of security. And in the worship of security we fling our lives beneath the wheels of routine - and before we know it our lives are gone.


What does a man need - really need? A few pounds of food each day, heat and shelter, six feet to lie down in - and some form of working activity that will yield a sense of accomplishment. That's all - in the material sense, and we know it. But we are brainwashed by our economic system until we end up in a tomb beneath a pyramid of time payments, mortgages, preposterous gadgetry, playthings that divert our attention for the sheer idiocy of the charade.


The years thunder by, The dreams of youth grow dim where they lie caked in dust on the shelves of patience. Before we know it, the tomb is sealed.


Where, then, lies the answer? In choice. Which shall it be: bankruptcy of purse or bankruptcy of life?
01-03-2007 02:20 PM
Jim H
Quote:
Originally Posted by William Bruce
Im finishing up the first of 2 years of grad school so im almost broke but im still planning on sailing off for a month or 2 this May.
Luckily, I was done after two years of grad school... Your trip sounds like a blast, and I hope you post some pics here or on a page somewhere.

Jim H
01-03-2007 12:08 AM
William Bruce I just wanted to say that Im really enjoying this thread. Im 22 and purchased my boat ( a sabre 28) almost a year ago. Im finishing up the first of 2 years of grad school so im almost broke but im still planning on sailing off for a month or 2 this May.

Its really good to see that there are some other people out there that are into sailing and my age.
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