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Why are the Ladies silent on Sailnet?

35K views 236 replies 63 participants last post by  emcentar 
#1 ·
Sailing is so sexist that the ladies here feel too inferior to post?

They are treated rudely or not taken seriously?

Anything they say is invalidated?

OK to rant Ladies!
 
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btw--learned to sail --age 7 yrs. we sailed with our uncle until after high school, when we moved thousands of miles away---i came back for another year of it, so did my other sibs--something about st louis after hudson river--just aint,,errr, wasnt happening--lol---went back into it with a vengeance and found that even tho i hadnt sailed many yrs, i was in better form than some ladies i knew with small boats--so we sailed a lot to catalina and day sails, didnt take long at all, actually.
learned the hard stuff(boom) age 7. ye never forget that one...the rest was easy. but i learned on gaff rigging--we didnt have a lot of fancy bs on the boat. we didnt race. one is NEVER done learning to sail..each time out is different ...no 2 sailing adventures are same...
 
#197 ·
some male members seem to think the ladies here know nothing and will begin a bash then twist the deal so it looks like th e female has faux pas'd--can be a large put off, as the males doing this are desk jocks and nonsailors , game players and trolls who love playing word twist...not fun to deal with.. prolly a lot of spare testosterone they know not how to handle......is why i only stop by on occasion.....just sayin...
 
#199 ·
some male members seem to think the ladies here know nothing and will begin a bash then twist the deal so it looks like th e female has faux pas'd--can be a large put off, as the males doing this are desk jocks and nonsailors , game players and trolls who love playing word twist...not fun to deal with.. prolly a lot of spare testosterone they know not how to handle.....
After working with the macho boys for almost four decades, there's nothing they can say that I haven't heard before. The guys here are tame compared to what I'm used to.

A sense of humor disarms most instigators.
 
#198 ·
More like insecurity than testosterone Zee.

Thing is, as cliched as it sounds, the only thing between you and what you want to do, is yourself. You may not be able to be the champion, but that doesn't mean you can't do what you can do.
 
#200 ·
i have worked with macho guys and such--i was and still am oldest of 4 kids labelled horrid children by momma, with pride, -- i know how to deal with em--i am tired of having to do so--but i can usually hold my own for looong time before the guys resort to name calling, as their tiny brains cannot handle intelligence in females.


and , then, humor works, also.....
 
#202 ·
and , then, humor works, also.....
I worked in construction for almost four decades. I was often a foreman (woman). ;) My first time was really tough. But I learned quickly. In time I realized never to take to heart anything the guys said. They are constantly jabbing one another and laughing while they do it. Take them seriously and they pounce like a lion. You have to be able to take it as well as give it. When I did, I gained their respect.

I knew I arrived when I was at the union hall one day looking for work. There was a big guy there who had once worked for me. No one messed with him. When it was his turn to pick a job he said, "I'm waiting to see what job Julie is going to run. I want to work for her again." That was "WOW!" moment for me.
 
#201 ·
zeehag Sorry to hear that you hang around with poorly endowed males, intellectually or otherwise. I realize that sometimes it's pretty slim pickens and one has to lower ones standards.May I offer you my solution to this universal problem ? Wine ! It just makes others more interesting regardless of gender , lumped together or singly.
 
#203 ·
wine only makes ye a wino.
i have reynauds disease--i do not drink. there are many things i do not do because of this stupid underlying condition. is all good-i have more fun than any 2 normal souls.

i read the " mission statement" of this hersailnet--we are supposed to be speaking of nail polish, hair nets, girlee stuff---sad to say, much of that crap i do not have on my boat as it befouls the pumps .... i do have nice shampoos and conditioners and i do wear my hair very long--is easier this way.....

but i do not usually talk about this kind of stuff. not all girlees are frilly , fussy prissies.
so--i willnot speak of nail polish or hair conditioners or wtf most girlees talk about. same with many ladies who sail. some are frilly fancy girlees, but no tmany. i have yet to encounter my second frilly gir out here--this is not an environment conducive to propogating frilly girlee stuff. nails break. hair frizzes. get over it and sail..LOL
i more try to figger out what the new noise in the bilges is , what is causing the fuel line to clog-is it dirty fuel or is it air--those things that are not subject matter for a proper lady to get into.
i do not use my presto pressure cooker in tropical areas. i do not cook in summer in tropix...

rodlmao--life is great!

so, do you think this bottom paint goes well with my interior????
 
#208 ·
Where are you in HI? My cousin lives right outside of Hilo, on the big island...and my good friend lives on Kauai (sp?). Wherever you are, hope you're enjoying island life. I know it's quite different from living on a continent. We hope to sail there one of these days. :) Take care, and Aloha.
 
#210 ·
I haven't been on in a while but have posted on threads when I felt I had something valuable to add. I posted at length on one thread where someone was asking about the best way to go about moving aboard and maintaining the lifestyle....finances, logistics, etc., etc. and have given advice to "newbies" who are interested in sailing or who have purshased a boat and are learning to sail and have questions I feel I can answer intelligently. However, when I did post and gave my opinions, I did have a few men post after me, some in agreement with what I had said (and were friendly). However, there were two men who posted after me who did not agree with what I has said and were rather rude, to be quite honest. I think those two men may have felt threatened by a female who actually knows a thing or two about sailing/living aboard because of how they responded. Maybe I'm wrong but they could've disagreed with me without being flat out rude...we're all adults here. The posts from those two did, in fact, discourage me from posting anything further and is why I haven't been back on the site until now. I figured I would at least give the site another chance before I gave up on it because, as a live aboard, it's nice to be able to talk to others that are avid sailors or who live aboard themselves, to swap stories, ask/offer advice, etc. So, now that you've brought up the issue of women being silent, maybe I'll start making some noise again and see how it goes!
 
#211 ·
Right on sailor wench, screw those stupid men, they are so insecure and I really could care less about what they have to say or whine about! I go my own way alone without the BS they put forth! Sick of it already, I want to sail and have fun I am a good and kind person willing n able, but no drama in my Queendom!

Leliu

Aloha
 
#214 ·
Sheesh! What a pain to have to experience that. You'd think that on a site like this, people would be less likely to be rude and negative...but I guess not. Too bad. Who needs that??
I wouldn't blame you for not participating anymore if that's the kind of feedback you get. Personally, being a woman, I love learning from women who've experienced what I'm getting ready to do. I understand women's perspectives easier than I do men's, usually. Not always, but usually. It's very nice to know there are women out there who have knowlegde in this area, and know how to share it. I hope you'll come back again. I'm new at this, never have even been on a sailboat until about 2 1/2 months ago. Am living on a 1983, S2-C11 sailboat. It's a racer, so isn't as broad as I would have preferred...but it's cozy. We're docked in Kemah, Texas, and now have to wait until the hurricane season is over before we go cruising. Too many things to fix on the boat before we take off.

How long have you been sailing? Do you live on a boat? Where? Where have you travelled?
Thanks for your post. I hope the men who do come on here will be polite, and interactive.
 
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#215 ·
dsully---i took off before stuff got fixed and i find fixers on my way...
kemah?? had a friend with a s2 and a ericson who used to stay there--now is in louisiana..
i sailed out of louisiana for a near year, on a seidelmann 37--we just watched for anything gonna kill us--duckedinto places for hurrycames--ida passed over us, water up water down, wind over head..no big deal...we were in slidell then...
we waiting out pacific furycame season in golfo de mexico this year...for repairs.
wasonmy way to panama--will continue on that route when repairs are finished--found a good repair guy...
 
#216 ·
Hi Zee,

Nice to hear from you. You are such a brave woman. I am itching to get going, and so is my hubby, but the insurance company is making us take lessons before we go...an
expense that keeps putting us behind financially. (And a pain to have to wait around for). So, while we wait to get the ok from the insurance co., we're fixing things up on the boat. The v-berth hatch needs new adjusters, because the old ones are broken. We just ordered those. As it is, we're holding up the hatch with a box. (look a little bit like hillbillies). We want to clean the engine, change oil, filters, get new parts for it if needed, and need to get the Standing and Running rigging checked out, etc. Paul wants this all taken care of before we head out.

Did you sail directly across the gulf? We're contemplating that...but may do coastal cruising down to Isla Mujeres. So many people are telling us the gulf is a tricky place to sail because of all the underwater currents going every which way.

We know a couple here at the marina who have an S2...Dave and Debbie. Wonder if they're the ones you mentioned. They have a wind vane steering system on the back of their boat for rough seas. The last time they went across the gulf it was torrential...and miserable. They used the wind vane, but they were both sick as dogs from the wave action. She said she'd never go that way again. Yet another gulf story.

I love your boat...she's a beauty. Would love to see more pics of her. Are you on your way to Panama? That's the route we want to go...want to end up in Bahia de Caraquez in Ecuador, then maybe go over to the Galapagos.

Who is the good repair guy you found and where? We may need him when we finally get on our way.

Safe sailing and thanks for writing...

Diane
 
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gom was fun--norge washer with attitude..sucks for a sloop, except during calmer weather but we had to go out in lightning storms and mayhem..lol...the seas poop ye nice and wet, and the flying fishies slap yer face and the norge is only on rinse cycle, dangit...cant wait to have my ketch there..will be a gas.
louis sold his last year i think, and his slip was for sale also--he took his ericson to louisiana and is there now.

i hold all my hatches up with a bit of wood. lol....

we didnt make it to mujeres but we did get to dry tortugas....awesome cool place. make sure your anchor is a bruce and that you have enough chain to keep it down. was difficult holding.

we harbor hopped--slidell to gom barrier islands--dont miss those--cool places and decent anchorages..icw -mississippi sound--alabama--mobile bay to icw and lulu's, and pensacola to gom to destin--way much current there for tidal flow but bridge is only 49 ft clearance--so you get to work with a realllly fast current.....we did many of the lil places to see in west fla--i loved apalachiacola and port st joe---my depth is way too deep for some of the stuff we did with a 4 1/2 ft keel....tampa bay and st petes and regatta pointe marina and stuff...ft myers beach, ueseppe island between with icw to ft myers beach..some awesome places....then ft myers beach to ft jefferson....some folks like to go to keys--i didnt want to go there....

if you need his help,i will let ye know--he is bashful, and i dont know where he wil end up--is a free spirit with attitude..lol goood boatwright, tho.
 
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smack em back a tad and they dont mess with ye too much...but they dont often listen, unless your stuff is better than theirs...or you sail farther than they do or you did something dumber than them and didnt die or some thing testosterone influenced like that.....

my repair guy is awesome-- does excellent work, and will work for cheap--i wont tell ye his name, but ye can get it from me when you need him...or he will find you....he is good at that.
 
#220 ·
I like your tude! :)

And I think that's fair..getting in touch with you first to let you know we need your repair guy. He sounds like a true find. Will contact you if we need him.
 
#222 ·
If we should make it out of here before the hurricanes start coming in, we'll go for the destination of Ecuador, and if we still want to continue, I'd like to go to Golfo de California. It's a different kind of beauty, and my grandpa used to go down there with his daughter and her hubby on vacations after my grandma died. He was in his 90's. They all lived in Vista, California, and had a Winnebago. He loved camping out and sitting on the beach there. I'd just love to see it and sail the Sea of Cortez. Would be great. I'm so ready to get going. Can hardly wait.
 
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