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4 Weeks Ago 01:59 PM
Towguy
Re: Beneteau vs Hunter

A old thread like getting updated is actually very intresting and informative
4 Weeks Ago 12:45 PM
Jeff_H
Re: Beneteau vs Hunter

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Originally Posted by Viper View Post
Simple fact is for every Beni there are 3 Hunters and both together outnumber all other brands considerably.
As Minnewaska pointed out, the above is statistically inaccurate. The last time that I saw the numbers (roughly 2-3 years ago), worldwide Beneteau produced more sailboats in a year than the next three biggest builders combined. That particular year I believe that Bavaria was the second largest company worldwide, and then came Catalina and Hunter was fourth. Also that year, Beneteau's Marion Plant actually produced more boats in the US than either Hunter or Catalina. Obviously these numbers vary from year to year and I had hoped to find last year's statistics, but they are not available on line. At the 2016 Annapolis Boat show a rep from the Hanse group claimed that they have passed Bavaria last year.

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Originally Posted by Viper View Post
The large numbers of Hunters and Beni mean there is a supply of aftermarket parts more than 30 years after a model first appeared.
I suggest that statement is a bit misleading. While Hunter is still in business, based on my experience, Hunter does not provide aftermarket support for their older models. For example less than 10 years after my Mom's Hunter 30 was constructed, Hunter was unable to produce a lazarette hatch for her boat since they said that the tooling no longer existed. Similarly they referred us to the boom manufacturer for a boom end fitting. At the time, they said they can't support boats that old.

In contrast, Beneteau was able to supply a one of their curved doors with the correct hardware to a head in the correct matching finish and a Lewmar hatch with the correct Bene custom color plexiglass more than 15 years after a friend's First 38s5 was built.

Catalina also has a rep for supporting their earlier models. I have not dealt with them directly on that.

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Originally Posted by Viper View Post
The hardware, mast, rigging is the same as on your more expensive, single purpose boats, so its down to hull construction and design.
Again I would suggest that this is a bit misleading. Its true that Hunter buys a lot of off the shelf gear from the same manufacturers that the more custom manufacturers buy their stuff from, but the big manufacturers offer product lines with variations in quality between the lines. So while Hunter may buy their stuff in similar places, that does not mean its the same quality product line, or same size as might be used on a higher price or quality boat.

At the heart of it, I like many of the models that Hunter has produced over the years. They have generally been a good boat for the price. A whole lot of folks like their Hunters. But there is no value in presenting their virtues inaccurately.

Respectfully,
Jeff
04-20-2017 06:37 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Beneteau vs Hunter

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Originally Posted by Viper View Post
.....Simple fact is for every Beni there are 3 Hunters .....
Welcome to SN. Good add to the discussion, although, you may or may not have noticed it was started 15 years ago.

In any event, I'm curious where you got the above stat. In terms of global production volumes, I would assume the opposite by an even larger margin.
04-20-2017 05:38 AM
Viper
Re: Beneteau vs Hunter

I find the roll bar/arch on Hunters very attractive and most functional as I do the sugar scoop rear. I just don't sail, I cruise and dive and fish and stay onboard long term. My Lab loves to swim off the stern as I do and getting into the RIB is much easier.


The traveler is up and out of the way and is very powerful at the end of the boom and not in a cockpit thanks to the arch. No one need duck on a tack. The B&R rig was designed for around the world solo racing. The very high aspect mainsail sail points far better than most boats. The small genoa functions much as a working jib, requiring less work. Downwind performance can be made up with an asymmetric cruising spinnaker.

Simple fact is for every Beni there are 3 Hunters and both together outnumber all other brands considerably. Both have models that are routinely sailed around the world. The large numbers of Hunters and Beni mean there is a supply of aftermarket parts more than 30 years after a model first appeared. Both have excellent live aboard qualities. The hardware, mast, rigging is the same as on your more expensive, single purpose boats, so its down to hull construction and design.

You seem to be making the comparison that instead of going to work each day in a Ford or Chevy, we all need to drive a Bently. That is not true for cars nor sailboats.


There are 40 year old Hunters still sailing. Mine is 18 years old. And I just bought a 3 bladed prop for it. Less vibration than a 2 blade, better handling and it is actually smaller. And some time motoring performance can be important. , You cant sail down the ditch and sometimes its 40 knots offshore.

Regards
03-28-2015 07:54 AM
jzk
Re: Beneteau vs Hunter

I will second that endorsement

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Originally Posted by bporter View Post
If I was to spend that much money on a Beneteau, I''d put it into a First 47.7. You should get a better ride out of her, and a at 47'' a good amount of creature comforts, especially if it''s only two of you.

I dont'' know much of the deck layout on the 47.7, but the similarly designed 40.7 looks like she''ll shorthand well.
03-28-2015 07:30 AM
chuck53
Re: Beneteau vs Hunter

Don't you just love it when newbies join the forum and the first thing they do is resurrect posts that have been dormant for years.
03-28-2015 12:03 AM
TakeFive
Re: Beneteau vs Hunter

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Originally Posted by ajdtiger View Post
Too bad no one can get a straight answer
...even after 13 years.
03-27-2015 09:27 PM
ajdtiger
Re: Beneteau vs Hunter

Too bad no one can get a straight answer
08-04-2011 05:44 PM
MarkSF Just get yourself something like this.

1990 Bristol 47.7 CENTER CP CUTTER RIG SLOOP-TRUE ELEGANCE! Sail Boat For

Go on, you know you want to. Just look at all that teak.
08-04-2011 05:11 PM
lexvold
Beneteau vs Hunter

Hatchet job by unscrupulous Hunter Dealer removed per forum rules
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