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07-26-2013 10:09 PM
Fstbttms
Re: Bay Area hull cleaner killed on the job?

I'm not saying diving alone (any diving) isn't without its risks, but it's just not a practical reality for hull cleaners.
07-26-2013 10:00 PM
SloopJonB
Re: Bay Area hull cleaner killed on the job?

I live right near a super popular diving spot (Whytecliff Park) and every year numerous divers are brought out by ambulance or the CG hovercraft. We can tell if it's a diving accident by the Doppler of the sirens.

When I got certified, one of the main things they harped on was NEVER DIVE ALONE.

Of course, that was in reference to scuba, not hookahs.
07-26-2013 11:44 AM
Fstbttms
Re: Bay Area hull cleaner killed on the job?

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Fstbttms - do you guys go down alone when you clean bottoms? No-one on deck while you're down?
Sorry I never responded to this-

In answer to your question; no, we typically do not use tenders or "spotters." I do know some hull cleaners that work in pairs, but both divers are in the water. Again, injury or death is extremely rare in this business and I think most hull cleaners would tell you that having a tender would be an unnecessary expense.
07-26-2013 11:36 AM
Fstbttms
Re: Bay Area hull cleaner killed on the job?

Update- I was told by William Swanson's widow that the cause of his death was determined to be a heart attack.
05-10-2013 07:41 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Bay Area hull cleaner killed on the job?

I've never in my life seen a spotter for a hull diver. Not sure one is necessary either.
05-10-2013 12:20 AM
SloopJonB
Re: Bay Area hull cleaner killed on the job?

Fstbttms - do you guys go down alone when you clean bottoms? No-one on deck while you're down?
05-10-2013 12:00 AM
mad_machine
Re: Bay Area hull cleaner killed on the job?

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No. Electric Shock Drowning (ESD) is extremely rare in saltwater. Almost all occurrences of ESD take place in freshwater. That being said, I unplug every boat I work on before I get in the water. Assuming that this death was not actually work-related, to my knowledge there has never been a serious injury or death in the hull cleaning industry in the Bay Area during the 18+ years I have been cleaning boat bottoms. And we're talking well over 1,000,000 in-water service events during that time. That's an impressive safety record IMHO and speaks volumes about the relative safety of working in marinas.



No idea.
and as sad as it is that you had your first death, even with that record, you are going to start seeing all sorts of regulations passed to prevent the 1 in a million (literally) death
05-09-2013 05:57 PM
downeast450
Re: Bay Area hull cleaner killed on the job?

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Don't believe that would fall under "natural causes."
A few years back we had a couple of divers killed by stray current working near a dock in a harbor along the coast of Maine. Heart failure, I think, was the consequence. Stray current was the cause.

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05-09-2013 01:56 AM
Fstbttms
Re: Bay Area hull cleaner killed on the job?

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Fast - just out of curiosity, do you typically test for current in the water before going in?
No. Electric Shock Drowning (ESD) is extremely rare in saltwater. Almost all occurrences of ESD take place in freshwater. That being said, I unplug every boat I work on before I get in the water. Assuming that this death was not actually work-related, to my knowledge there has never been a serious injury or death in the hull cleaning industry in the Bay Area during the 18+ years I have been cleaning boat bottoms. And we're talking well over 1,000,000 in-water service events during that time. That's an impressive safety record IMHO and speaks volumes about the relative safety of working in marinas.

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And what's the "range" of such electrical current from a source in saltwater?
No idea.
05-09-2013 01:38 AM
smackdaddy
Re: Bay Area hull cleaner killed on the job?

Fast - just out of curiosity, do you typically test for current in the water before going in? And what's the "range" of such electrical current from a source in saltwater?
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