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05-12-2013 03:54 PM
zeehag
Re: Upholstery foam..

rodlmao.

when i was searching there was no sechuvathang as green bs.
everything was made of latex until after i ceased my futile search for cushions for my ericson a few yrs ago. marine cushions=latex.
if latex was more pricey for you--awesome, and i am glad, as the stuff is nasty and not worthy of use. all the cushions in any boat i ever met were made of latex, not just kalifornia. all marine cushions have been latex for decades.
why dont you have your cushions tested for material content. you may learn a lot from it.

btw--there is no reason for anyone to have ever mentioned the material from which foam cushions were made=--it was ALL latex. ask me how i know....you might fool self but yer not gonna fool me as i know what is and is not latex. duh. remember i am HIGHLY allergic to latex.

RODLMAO
05-12-2013 03:50 PM
hellosailor
Re: Upholstery foam..

The BiOH® Polyols Story | BedInABox

Check it out. No latex. They went from PETROLEUM based foams, to SOY based foams and there's no mention of latex as even an option.

And these folks are not unique.

Maybe California requires latex foam, but in some places it is simply not commonly found.

Or maybe the foam shops lied to you, trying to sell "latex" as natural and green and a better product. There's a lot of lying in the mattress industry (no pun intended) and the foam industry, since the customer has no way to tell what they are really buying until ten years later when it falls apart.

http://www.madehow.com/Volume-5/Foam-Rubber.html
Another vote for synthetics from some dogs on the internet:
"Originally, foam rubber was made from natural latex, a white sap produced from rubber trees. As early as 500 B.C. , Mayans and Aztecs used this latex for waterproofing purposes and also heated it to make toy balls. During the early 1900s, the first patent for synthetic rubber was granted and several decades later a process for foaming latex was invented. Another process was developed in 1937 for making foams from isocyanate-based materials. After World War II, styrene-butadiene rubber replaced the natural foam. Today, polyurethane is the most commonly used material for foam products. Foamed polyurethanes currently make up 90% by weight of the total market for polyurethanes. "
05-12-2013 03:37 PM
zeehag
Re: Upholstery foam..

i was looking in san diego for cushions to replace those in my ericson which ARE latex, cheap crap, and could only find LATEX...this is 4 yrs ago. now i am not talking about house stuff, i am talking about marine bs stuff...is all freeking latex. if you do not believe--YOU go out to findproper NONlatex cushionry in san diego or anywhere else, like lost angeles, californicashia....lol--you WILL only find LATEX, as did i, UNLESS that was changed within the last 4 years.
do not tell me i was in mexico then, as i was in kalifornikatia in a big city

when we grew upp, we NEVER had cushions of foam--we had pricey well made high class ones ..rodlmao. did nt meet foam crap until i moved onto a boat and had a lot of asthmaproblems DUE TO LATEX FOAM, which is standard on boats made prior to 2000
and YES, i ALWAYS ask what the foam is made of and i demand a tag to state exact contents of the materials i use.

remember, i did say i am HIGHLY allergic to latex......

i am so glad you know so very much about my search for NON latex cushionry.

4 yrs ago it did NOT exist for less than an extra 1000 usd. in usa...

btw--the upholstery covers in houses is made of poly-bs material, as are the carpets..might wanna check this out yourself, as i know abou tthis subject thoroughly, being HIGHLY allergic to latex. i researched it completely. i amnot fond of being FORCED into latex when i am not able to breathe in its presence..

also--as an emergency rn in triage as well as emergency and burn units and icus and such for over 30 yrs, i have had to know what the victims were breathing from the flames and smoke so we could treat them appropriately.

anyone saying ALL upholstery foam in usa is poly bs is not truthful,, as i found differently in my search of upholstery outlets for the source of the foam in question-- IS LATEX.
i know, as i REQUESTED the info and received my tags to read. did you??????
how many upholstery shops did you actively SEARCH for your info????
i went to more than 10 in lost angeles and riverside and san diego searching for reasonably priced NON latex foam, which until 4 yrs ago was most difficult to find if at all, and was 1000 usd more than latex, to which more than half earths human population is allergic.



RODLMAO.
05-12-2013 03:35 PM
SlowButSteady
Re: Upholstery foam..

When I went shopping for a new mattress for our guest cottage natural foam (a.k.a., genuine latex) was ALWAYS more expensive than polyurethane (a.k.a., synthetic latex).
05-12-2013 03:30 PM
hellosailor
Re: Upholstery foam..

zeehag, in the US "ordinary" upholstery foam is indeed polyurethane, and for years the fire rescue squads have been warning people that it creates highly toxic smoke when burned. It is a universal problem for them--so they say--because "all" of the upholstery foam is urethane here.

Maybe Mexico supports a home latex industry, or we need to have the forum members check out their mattress tags to see if the fire squads are all stalking shadows.
05-12-2013 03:01 PM
zeehag
Re: Upholstery foam..

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Originally Posted by MarkSF View Post
I think you are confused... ordinary foam is urethane. Latex is a premium product that is much more expensive. I would have thought that urethane is more likely to promote allergies than latex.

We use latex gloves at work, and I know one person out of 100 who is allergic to them. A long way from 75%.
llatex is the cheap stuff. ask any upholsterer, as i went out and did.

believe it or not---most boats have latex foam for cushions and other itms needing foam as it is so damnably cheap. rodlmao--same with rubber gloves---latex is the cheap stuff.

to buy non latx foam for my boat, i had to wait 4 - 6 weeks for a special order and pay 3000 usd more..lol.. so i didnt buy those.
i went to other upholstery places, including outlets, as i am HIGHLY allergic to latex, and found only availability was latex. the non latex was more than 1000 usd more. at the outlet for the material and foams.

any changes with manufacturers of boats made must have been within the last 4 yrs.....as before then all were latex foam.
05-12-2013 02:19 PM
hellosailor
Re: Upholstery foam..

When I bought mine it was measured by a "durometer" density (resistance to compression) rather than by the pound. And I got mucky, it has stayed "foam" for many years after cheaper stuff crumbled. It IS possible to buy foam too dense to sleep comfortably, so if you can, lay on a slab and try it out.

A lot of foam places will suggest that they make a sandwich for you, high density foam on the bottom for support, medium density or a "topper" on top to conform to the body, and that's probably the best way to go for a mattress. If it is done right, four inches is all you need, no superthick nonsense.

The problem is that all foam looks pretty much alike and you can't tell if you are getting CocaCola or HoJo Cola. Most of it is made like pancake batter, from chemicals fizzing in the foam to make the bubbles and make it rise. The cheap stuff eventually burns the foam and makes it crumble, so the big trick is to find a reputable supplier that has been around for a while--not the cheapest one.

And there are some places like bedinabox.com that sell foam matresses over the web. Some of their foam is made specifically by BASF, and I trust BASF to make good product.
05-12-2013 01:13 PM
MarkSF
Re: Upholstery foam..

I think you are confused... ordinary foam is urethane. Latex is a premium product that is much more expensive. I would have thought that urethane is more likely to promote allergies than latex.

We use latex gloves at work, and I know one person out of 100 who is allergic to them. A long way from 75%.
05-12-2013 12:09 PM
zeehag
Re: Upholstery foam..

my cushions are 6 inch thick, my bed is topped with 2 inches memory foam.

when i change things, i need to go to non-latex foam, or a custom mattress, a lot more pricey than regular latex foam...be aware of allergens in latex--can be fatal or very disabling to those allergic to it, which includes 75 percent of world's population, at this point.

happy sails....
05-12-2013 11:58 AM
Sea Dawg
Re: Upholstery foam..

High Density Foam. I just bought online from these guys and it's right on.
Foam, Closed Cell, EZ Film, from Rochford Supply - Your Online Textile and Upholstery Superstore!
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