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08-01-2013 10:52 PM
miatapaul
Re: dnf because of county police boat?

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Originally Posted by hellosailor View Post
The average recreational boater doesn't know the Notice to Mariners exists, much less subscribe to it. Or have any idea why an anchorage might be "special" or how it could fit in a remedial education classroom. (Duh.)

Not to be cruel, but I'm thinking Darwin Award on this one.
Well I have to agree to the Darwin Award if it was the operator who had died, unfortunately that was not the case. If they were out in daylight he should have known that the barges were there. Part of situational awareness, and shame on him if he is not aware of notices to mariners. Though I have never seen a set of charts on a small power boat, and most users likely unable to read one. Besides they don't do much good when you are blasting away in the dark.
07-30-2013 07:57 AM
downeast450
Re: dnf because of county police boat?

I grew up on the Hudson back in the 50's and 60's. A different world for sure. The Croton River was my home. We were charter members of the River Rat Club, now known as the Croton Yacht Club. I played, sailed and hunted on the Hudson from Bear Mt. to Piermont. My first "big boat" sailing experience was with Bernie Lewis on Haverstraw Bay. Things were simpler then! Great time to enjoy those environs. I can remember the center span of the Tappanzee Bridge being "settled" in place using the tide. Cool!

I have to believe that our feeling of "wide open space and freedom" would be much different today. It is a beautiful river! We are planning a cruise up the Hudson in the future and were considering attending my 50th hs reunion next fall by sailing to Croton.

Yikes!

Down
07-30-2013 07:00 AM
bubb2
Re: dnf because of county police boat?

I am not defending the boat's operator. I am tired of seeing the Rockland Co. sheriff saying on TV that the barge was unlit using a tone that others are also responsible.
There is a real possibility that the barge didn't need to lit.
07-30-2013 02:07 AM
hellosailor
Re: dnf because of county police boat?

The average recreational boater doesn't know the Notice to Mariners exists, much less subscribe to it. Or have any idea why an anchorage might be "special" or how it could fit in a remedial education classroom. (Duh.)

Not to be cruel, but I'm thinking Darwin Award on this one.
07-30-2013 12:57 AM
bubb2
Re: dnf because of county police boat?

Cabel, we had the CG come to Tarrytown a year or so ago when the go ahead for the new bridge was given as there was a lot of concern how it would effect our marina. The CG talked about the barges and how they would be setting up special anchorages for them and make notifications by way of "notice to mariners" I don't know for sure if that was done in this case. BTW your mooring field sits in a charted "special anchorage" That's why you don't have to have anchor lights over night.
07-30-2013 12:40 AM
CalebD
Re: dnf because of county police boat?

I'm not sure about the special anchorage but they hit one of the stationary barges on the south side of the TZ bridge, which would be almost on the course from Piermont to Tarrytown.
I know that the few barges on the north side of the bridge had very poor lighting, if any, for night time visibility because I sailed by them at night a month ago.
Stationary objects on the water are to be avoided which we all know, or think we know.
07-29-2013 09:52 PM
bubb2
Re: dnf because of county police boat?

There are special anchorages around the bridge. If the barge was sitting in one of those it didn't need to be lit
07-29-2013 09:34 PM
hellosailor
Re: dnf because of county police boat?

I wonder how many gallons of Gneuine Marine Grade Glow In The Dark Barge Paint they could buy for the price of one gofast boat?

More likely now the politicians will campaign to install streetlights all up and down and across the river. I'd better get my bid on that contract in now, its gonna be a lucrative one.

And then once everyone has a gofaster boat, they'll need armored amphibians. Just in case the British come back, and we need a fast way to deploy that chain boom across West Point again.

Whether the barge was lit or not...You know, the same they teach drivers about "don't overun your headlights at night" ? If you can't see what's out there, SLOW DOWN. If you're too drunk to see what's out there, GO HOME AND GET ANOTHER BEER.

Funny how beer and donuts don't mix, isn't it?
07-29-2013 08:42 PM
Sal Paradise
Re: dnf because of county police boat?

Hey , I'm not cop bashing, the donut shop is your deal.

Are you any more alive or is the water any warmer because after the first boat pulls you out, then 6 million dollars of personnel and equipment arrives and idles out in the river for 6 hours??

We just had a boat run into what is reported to be an unlighted barge on the Tappen Zee job. Tragedy.

Does it justify the money and personnel currently doing enforcement on the river? I don't think so, most sailors and power boaters I talk to think the same. YMMV
07-29-2013 06:28 PM
hellosailor
Re: dnf because of county police boat?

"I haven't heard of any police rescues during the winter."
Maybe you missed the Cessna(?) that ditched this spring with water temps still in the low 40's. Two men in the water and I think the police boat launched out of Ossining with just a partial phone call for position. They recovered both men before the water could kill them, and considering the Hudson can get into the low 30's in the winter, you may only have 15 minutes before the diaphragm muscles paralyze and you suffocate. Then you drown. Well, technically you don't drown because you're already dead from not being able to breath.
Upriver, downriver, not much difference. Aircraft follow the river, small craft overturn, and homeland security grants, well, one can always hope some deserving local charity got a chance to bid on the old used boats.
Hey, race you to the donut shop!
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