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05-27-2013 11:32 AM
Sal Paradise
Re: Young people and adventure

My wife and I have 3 adult sons.. great guys. All three turned out to be wonderful happy productive. That might be because they had a doting stay at home mom,a big house to romp in, dogs, little league, bicycles, grandparents, a yard to play in, kids in the neighborhood to play with, woods to run in, a church to be raised in. You can't fit those things on a sailboat. We did sail, usually day sails on the Hudson or an overnight on LI sound and always a week at Lake George or Newport RI either on our boat, with our boat. We also skied and did sports and all that.

Now. Would it have been possible to raise them on a sailboat? Maybe, probably. For a little while.

We can all agree it would have been much different. As much as people tell you to take your whole family around the globe, I'd tell you to plant them some place where they can grow. It goes by. I was 25 then 47 now -- and guess what? They are pretty much grown up. The dog is pretty old. I'm still sort of young..The ocean...... is still there.

Now the opposite point ( and I am speaking from experience ) - children add so to much to life aboard a boat. If you don't spoil them you will find they are born to sail, amazed to see the milky way over the ocean....raised around boats they will be largely unafraid of anything and are not cynical, which is so refreshing. Drink up the innocence of that while you can, my friends. And children can make excellent crew. Strong, agile, able to balance on one toe rail and fit through the front hatch. Unable to sue you if injured or upset! Ha! Obedient - again if raised correctly.... Happy to swim instead of shower. And to them you are the greatest sailor ever. Story telling, music, just ability to appreciate things. They have it in huge quantities. They let you see it all though their eyes and it is pure magic.

So I do not advise raising kids on a sailboat. I advise raising kids at home and taking them sailing.
05-27-2013 10:40 AM
Group9
Re: Young people and adventure

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Originally Posted by northoceanbeach View Post
Maybe I just don't like kids.

At least you admit it. If someone asked if it were possible to sail around the world with a dog, I would say, "Hell, no." But, that's because I couldn't do it.

I'm sure plenty of people have, though.
05-24-2013 09:52 PM
Rhys05
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Originally Posted by northoceanbeach:1034710
Maybe I just don't like kids.
There ya go, I think you have now been totally honest. (not saying there's anything wrong with your opinion, I'm not a big fan of kids myself...loud and stinky...but they might be mostly okay if they were my own)
05-24-2013 12:24 AM
northoceanbeach
Re: Young people and adventure

Maybe I just don't like kids.
05-23-2013 10:54 PM
JonEisberg
Re: Young people and adventure

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Originally Posted by northoceanbeach View Post

You can't prove me wrong by showing pictures of kids near boats. I can post you a picture of Paris Hilton on a boat does that make her a sailor?
I think it's obvious by now, that NOTHING can possibly prove you wrong...

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Originally Posted by northoceanbeach View Post

But you can't sail around the world. Not really...
http://www.sail-world.com/news_print....cfm?Nid=71714
05-23-2013 09:41 PM
northoceanbeach
Re: Young people and adventure

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Originally Posted by blowinstink View Post
Yes you are -- that is exactly what you are saying.

Here's what you said in post #22:



Might as well own it . . .
I do. You can sail with kids, but it is harder.

But you can't sail around the world. Not really. Not most people. Go to any town USA and find a couple with kids and an interest in sailing and 99.9% of them cannot just make it happen. But people without children very well could.

Just because there are a few people doing it doesn't mean much. Some guys circumnavigating in a bathtub.

You can't prove me wrong by showing pictures of kids near boats. I can post you a picture of Paris Hilton on a boat does that make her a sailor?

I'm not even against people sailing with kids I do t even think it matters. If you want to sail with kids that's fine. I'm not going to stop you and ill help you if I can.
05-23-2013 08:38 PM
killarney_sailor
Re: Young people and adventure

Adventure can happen at any age, note the 80 year old who just climbed Everest. I had a fairly conventional life, taught high school for 30+ years, did some writing and now have time and reasonable finances for finding some adventure like anchoring off Easter Island and making landfall in Africa after crossing the Indian Ocean. Will be completing our circumnav in the new year (big party in Grenada). Thinking of doing the Camino de Santiago on Spain (800 km hike and we would not be doing it as a religious pilgrimage). Also have to start thinking about what next to do with the boat.

There are advantages and disadvantages of doing adventurous things younger and older (I really wish my knees worked better). Perhaps you can combine them. We met young couples, all European interestingly, who were doing three year circumnavs and then heading back to work, all had good career prospects.
05-23-2013 07:47 PM
blowinstink
Re: Young people and adventure

Quote:
Originally Posted by northoceanbeach View Post
In not saying you can't sail with kids in saying it makes it harder for young adventurers.
Yes you are -- that is exactly what you are saying.

Here's what you said in post #22:

Quote:
Originally Posted by northoceanbeach View Post
don't be fooled into thinking that you can have kids and take off for a year around the world. That door is closed for a long time. Maybe forever.
Might as well own it . . .
05-23-2013 07:28 PM
northoceanbeach
Re: Young people and adventure

Oh we'll if it was a blog that changes everything.

How am I wrong? In not saying you can't sail with kids in saying it makes it harder for young adventurers.

If you took two twins. 23 years old. Both want to have sailing adventures. Can't you see how much easier it would be for the single person compared to the married with children person? Especially at 23.
05-23-2013 07:10 PM
ccriders
Re: Young people and adventure

Interesting topic and a fun read. I think too much importance is being placed by some on physical adventure, you know rarified air, incredibly steep slopes, raging water etc.
Also, there seems to be lacking an historical perspective. As I was reading this, I thought about my family tree. My Grandmother was married at 16 (circa 1890) in the wilds of Texas to a carpet bagger, who some time later went back to visit relatives in Indiana and was never seen again. She married again, but still my father was raised by a single parent on a chicken farm and graduated high school barefoot in the depths of the Depression and married during wartime. His sisters married at 15 and 16, I'm sure to escape. He died a wealthy man, but worked every living day of his life, each one an adventure, except those days he spent as an Imigration Officer on the border. Yet he had the guts with four children in grade school to make a change and find a more adventerous, fulfilling life. I graduated college in time for another war and had not the opportunity for footloose adventure, but found plenty of adventure along the way.
Not all of the adventure I found was on a mountain peak or sailing around with my children, but surely there was some of that. I can't tell you what an incredible journey learning to play the cello has been. Likewise I can't tell you what I feel when I look at the photograph on my dresser with me standing on the lazarette of our small sailboat holding my three year old son, watching the sun go down over the Chessapeake.
Each of us build our lives in different ways and you really need to do that yourself paying only so much attention to the advice you get along the way.
I think MikeOReilly has made some very wise statements in his posts, worthy of a second read by you young horses ready to throw caution to the wind and go have an big adventure right now.
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