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06-19-2013 10:37 AM
joseph piodos
Re: Mildew

Molds are part of the natural environment. It may begin growing indoors when mold spores land on surfaces that are wet. There are many types of mold, and none of them will grow without water or moisture. It is the #1 cause of allergy symptoms which could lead to serious health concerns; respiratory illnesses or even death. Proper inspection, testing and removal are essential to ensure a healthier, happier existence for you and your family.

A mold inspection is when a person looks for mold growth in a building. It is important to have inspection in your home to protect you and your family from the toxic diseases it will give. It is the most important first step in identifying a possible microbial contamination problem. After that you might feel mold testing is warranted if you couldn't find any mold.
05-28-2013 02:14 PM
jfdubu
Re: Mildew

Quote:
Originally Posted by pdqaltair View Post
I like to think that as a tester and a chemist I'm open minded. In fact, I have some side-by-side tests running now for Practical Sailor.

* Vingar. Yes, I have a spray bottle on-board and it's usful stuff. You can read lots on-line. On a personal note I hate the smell of vingar and all perfumy products as well. I prefer no odor. But that said, vingar is an excelent weak acid cleaner that folks are comfortable with.
* Other traditional remidies include washing soda, baking soda, TSP, and borax; use these diluted in formulations I have listed in the attached link. Like vingar, they are rely on leaving a residue that prevents future growth in part by modifying the pH of the surface. There are other mechanisims too. Some of these apear to be very long lasting, as there is nothing to evaporate (acetic acid will dry in time).
Sail Delmarva: Borax: Stopping Mildew and Rot on the Cheap... and How the EPA Can Make Everything Complicated
The trick with vingar and these formulation is to dilute properly (more is NOT better) and leave a residue.
* There are many quatrenary amine products on the market. Most work, are relativly non-toxic, but don't seem to prevent return very well.
* We're testing some water-proof formulations for use on-deck. Gold Shied is one that I would love to hear feedback on.
* Surprisingly, most have learned that bleach is not too useful. It kills (if enough is used to bleach and damage fabrics) but doesn't prevent return (active ingredient quickly disipates). More irritating than actually "toxic" in the long-term sense, I still have little use for it inside. May help remove stains after the other cleaners have done their work. May not.
PDQ< great tip on the borax mixture. I'm using it to clean my interior teak prior to sealer. Some mold in spots, gone. Some splotchy teak oil spots, gone. This works better than any teak cleaner I've ever used and seems less toxic. I do put it on scrub with a brush or green 3M pad and wipe off with a fresh water sponge. clean as a whistle.
05-28-2013 11:57 AM
Sabreman
Re: Mildew

Quote:
I've found stuff called "Safe T Air" ...has tea tree oil in it and is cheaper than Canberra ... Canberra seems to be a bit more concentrated though.
Based on chef2sail's recommendation, we put 2 containers on Canberra Gel in the boat this winter. We launched last week and stayed overnight Saturday and Sunday. The Admiral was amazed that the "boat-smell" was gone. And she's a hard sell when it comes to boat smell. We'll be buying more when this batch is gone.
05-28-2013 11:32 AM
RonRelyea
Re: Mildew

I've found stuff called "Safe T Air" ...has tea tree oil in it and is cheaper than Canberra ... Canberra seems to be a bit more concentrated though.

The foam for all my interior cushions had a strange odor (can't quite nail down what the source was since it is from Prior Owner's time in the boat). This spring I put the foam in my van with Safe T Air for a week ... odor is gone!
05-25-2013 11:01 AM
ccriders
Re: Mildew

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Originally Posted by northoceanbeach View Post
It's just awkward cleaning the v berth.
That's where the kid comes in handy.
05-25-2013 10:49 AM
-OvO-
Re: Mildew

Also, gelatin is tasty for microbes and such, so you might just be fighting yourself by leaving a smear of it on all your surfaces.
05-25-2013 10:04 AM
Minnewaska
Re: Mildew

Quote:
Originally Posted by wingNwing View Post
Tea tree oil is the main active ingredient in Kanberra Gel. We tried the gel last winter. The gel seems to work best if you leave it to permeate an undisturbed area;if you keep opening to fresh air (like us who live aboard) you lose much of the advantage. Thus my suggestion for tea tree oil from a health food store above, diluted and sprayed directly onto surfaces it leaves a residue that lasts for months. Cheaper than the gel as well by a considerable margin. I have heard - but have not tried - that you can mix the oil into unflavored gelatin and make your own version of the gel.
Wing is right, the gel works best over the few days that we are closed up during the week. But it really does work. Amazing stuff.

I somehow doubt the rumor about gelatin. The consistency of Kanberra is almost toothpaste-like, but it all evaporates. I'm not sure the gelatin would.
05-25-2013 09:00 AM
wingNwing
Re: Mildew

Tea tree oil is the main active ingredient in Kanberra Gel. We tried the gel last winter. The gel seems to work best if you leave it to permeate an undisturbed area;if you keep opening to fresh air (like us who live aboard) you lose much of the advantage. Thus my suggestion for tea tree oil from a health food store above, diluted and sprayed directly onto surfaces it leaves a residue that lasts for months. Cheaper than the gel as well by a considerable margin. I have heard - but have not tried - that you can mix the oil into unflavored gelatin and make your own version of the gel.
05-24-2013 06:32 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Mildew

Quote:
Originally Posted by andrewoliv View Post
Anyone use Kanberra Gel? I am going to try that this weekend
You bet. Here is a thread I started here a couple of years back. Lots of info.

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...berra-gel.html
05-24-2013 11:30 AM
pdqaltair
Re: Mildew

I like to think that as a tester and a chemist I'm open minded. In fact, I have some side-by-side tests running now for Practical Sailor.

* Vingar. Yes, I have a spray bottle on-board and it's usful stuff. You can read lots on-line. On a personal note I hate the smell of vingar and all perfumy products as well. I prefer no odor. But that said, vingar is an excelent weak acid cleaner that folks are comfortable with.
* Other traditional remidies include washing soda, baking soda, TSP, and borax; use these diluted in formulations I have listed in the attached link. Like vingar, they are rely on leaving a residue that prevents future growth in part by modifying the pH of the surface. There are other mechanisims too. Some of these apear to be very long lasting, as there is nothing to evaporate (acetic acid will dry in time).
Sail Delmarva: Borax: Stopping Mildew and Rot on the Cheap... and How the EPA Can Make Everything Complicated
The trick with vingar and these formulation is to dilute properly (more is NOT better) and leave a residue.
* There are many quatrenary amine products on the market. Most work, are relativly non-toxic, but don't seem to prevent return very well.
* We're testing some water-proof formulations for use on-deck. Gold Shied is one that I would love to hear feedback on.
* Surprisingly, most have learned that bleach is not too useful. It kills (if enough is used to bleach and damage fabrics) but doesn't prevent return (active ingredient quickly disipates). More irritating than actually "toxic" in the long-term sense, I still have little use for it inside. May help remove stains after the other cleaners have done their work. May not.
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