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Interesting Sailboats

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Sirius 32, Sirius 35

THE OBJECT OF THIS THREAD:

Interesting sailboats in production and available on the new boat market (only boats with modern designs, meaning that the boats still in production but made with old designs are out). Recent designs out of production are also admissible.

Modern boat designs and modern one off, if interesting.

Classical boats and traditional boats.

Small cruisers (less than 35ft)

Seezunge 27ft: PG1-PT9

Hanse 325: PG19-PT185;

Presto 30 : 33-326; 33-327; 34-331; 34-333; 55-543; 55-544;

Tess Yachts: 37-366; 38-373;

Tess 28 Magnum: 37-369; 38-371;

Delphia 28: 38-373;

Vancouver 27/28 : 42-412; 72-717;

Cruisers between 35ft and 49ft


Catalina 355 : 31-306;

RM sailboats: PG5-PT41; 5-42

RM1050: PG5-PT46; 5-47; 5-48;

RM 1060: PG8-PT77; 8-78; 8-79; 8-80; 9-81; 30-295; 40-400; 79-786;

RM 1200: PG9-PT84; 9-85; 19-184; 20-191; 20-192; 41-404; 42-414; 42-418; 43-425; 43-426; 69-688;

RM 1350: PG9-PT82; 55-549; 95-943;

Morris Yachts: PG7-PT61

Bavaria 36: PG19-PT188; 19-190; 20-196;

Bavaria 40: PG10-PT95; 28-278; 29-281; 29-282; 29-283; 29-286; 32-316; 36-356; 51-502; 51-507; 52-518; 53-527; 53-532;

Bavaria 40s: 69-685; 78-775;

Bavaria 45: PG10-PT96; 19-190;

Rustler Yachts: PG11-PT104;

Jeanneau 409: PG11-PT103: 11-106; 30-298; 30-299; 36-356; 51-502; 51-504; 51-505; 51-509; 52-513; 52-514; 52-515; 52-516; 53-527; 54-532; 57-564; 57-570; 58-571; 58-580; 59-581; 59-583; 59-585; 62-614; 74-739; 91-906;

Jeanneau 439: 40-396; 40-397; 59-584; 59-585; 96-956;

Hanse Yachts: 16-154; 16-156; 16-158;

Hanse 400: 81-804;

Bluewater cruising yachts: 21-206

Beneteau Oceanis 37 : 31-306; 31-308; 31-309; 32-314; 55-541;

XC 38: 36-356; 96-954;

Diva 38: 39-386;

Diva 35: 40-391;

Dufour 405: 62-614;

Defline 43: 63-622

Walkabout 43: 93-923; 93-925; 93-927;

Small performance cruisers (less than 35ft)


Performance 32ft test: 29-87;

Sun Fast 3200: PG4-PT33; 4-34; 4-36; 30-293;

Elan 210: 70-691; 70-696; 78-779; 79-781;

Elan 310: PC7-PT64; 7-69; 8-71; 36-356; 41-408;

Quest 33: PG7-PT62

Olea 32: 25-243; 25-245;

First 27.7: 38-373; 38-380; 39-382;

First 30: 30-295; 39-356; 41-408; 55-545; 55-546;

Comet 26: 34-340; 35-345; 35-350; 36-353;

Pacer 30: 36-357;

Django 7.7: 40-399;

Vivace/Evosion 34: 45-442; 45-446; 45-445; 45-446; 45-447; 45-448; 45-449; 45-450; 46-458; 46-460;

Finn Flyer 34: 46-451; 46-453; 60-593;

Salona 34: 46-457;

Heol 7.4: 63-621; 63-622;

Azuree 33: 87-867; 91-902; 91-904;

JPK 10.10: 88-877 ; 88-880; 89-883;

Performance cruisers (between 35ft and 49ft)

Pogo 10.50: PG2-PT20; 3-27; 3-28; 3-30; 4-35; 5-50; 6-51; 6-52; 6-60; 11-101; 11-107; 11-110; 43-425; 44-440; 87-861; 87-867;

Pogo 12.50: PG13-PT125; 20-198; 20-199; 22-214; 27-264; 27-265; 27-269; 32-317; 32-319; 43-425; 43-426; 43-428; 44-432; 44-437; 44-439; 55-546; 55-547; 82-812; 84-831; 87-870;

Este 40: 89-890; 90-893; 90-899;

A35: PG5-PT42; 5-44; 66-660;

A40RC: 92-914;

Hammerhead 35: 64-645

Opium 39: PG5-PT42; 9-85; 9-89; 13-125; 22-220; 22-221; 43-426; 55-547; 86-857;

Aerodyne 35: PG7-PT62

Elan 350: PG7-PT64; 13-24; 13-126; 13-127; 13-128; 14-132; 18-178; 26-255; 36-356; 40-398; 41-405; 57-564; 59-589; 60-591; 72-711; 73-724; 74-738;

Elan 380: 23-223; 25-249; 26-256; 40-398; 59-589; 97-962;

Elan 410: 32-316; 79-784;

JPK 110: PG9-PT85; 10-91

Olea 44: PG10-PT100; 27-268;

Olea Yachts: 25-247;

Dufour 40e: Pg13-Pt125; 32-316; 55-547; 56-558; 56-559; 57-561; 57-562; 57-563; 59-586; 59-588,

Salona 37: 36-359; 41-406;

Salona 41: PG15-PT141; 15-145; 32-316; 36-356; 40-398; 54-538; 57-569; 78-778; 80-796; 80-798; 97-965;

Salona 42: PG15-PT145; 36-359; 40-398; 93-929; 94-932;

Cigale 16: PG15-PT148; 16-152; 17-161; 55-549; 63-625;

Cigale 14: PG17-PT163; 55-549;

Santa Cruz 43: PG17-PT169

Sydney Yachts: PG18-PT171; 18-175;

Sydney GTS 37: 43-423;

Sydney GTS 43: PG18-PT173;

Winner 12.20: PG20-193;

First 40: 31-304; 32-313; 32-316; 35-344; 36-354; 55-546; 55-547;

First 35: 36-356

Dehler 41: 30-296;

Dehler 44: 79-785;

Dehler 45: 36-356; 79-785;

Luffe 40.04: 30-300; 31-301; 31-303;

XP 38: 56-533; 56-544; 56-555; 67-622;

XP 44: 33-325;

Pacer 430: 36-357;

Pacer 376: 36-357; 66-652; 69-683;

Faurby 424: 36-360; 37-361; 37-363; 37-365;

Comfortina 39: 40-395;

J 133: 43-426; 63-620

J 111: 100-993;

Maxi 11: 99-982;

Arcona yachts: 46-456;

Arcona 410: 47-467; 47-468; 47-469; 48-471;

Arcona 430: 48-472;

Arcona 460: 50-495

Finngulf yachts: 46-456;

Varianta 44: 60-594; 60-595; 60-596; 60-597; 60-598; 64-639;

Imagine 53: 63-628;

Zou 40.2: 63-620

Ker 39: 68-676;

Finn-Flyer 42: 77-762;

Azuree 40: 85-842;

Loft 40: 85-848; 85-852;

Vivace 35: 90-895;

Sailing boats over 49ft

Zeydon 60 : PG 12-119;

JP 54: PG18-PT172;

Salona 60: 70-695;

Stadships: PG20-PT193; 20-195;

Pogo 50: 32-318; 32-319;

X-50: 54-537;

Murtic 52: 54-537;

Decksaloons and pilot house sailing boats

Sirius 32: PG1-PT1

Sirius 35: PG1-PT1; 1-10; 2-18; 50-491; 50-492; 60-559; 60-599;

Sirius 31: PG1-PT5; 2-17; 36-356;

Regina 35: 48-478;

Regina 40: PG11-PT104; 49-481; 49-483;

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Luffe 43DS: PG12-PT111; 12-115; 50-494;

Noordkaper 40: PG14-pt139;

Noordkaper yachts: PG16-PT155

Nordship 36: 30-297; 49-482;

Nordship 38: 49-482; 49-490;

Paulo's pilot house I: 38-376; 39-381; 39-383; 39-384;

Paulo's pilot house II: 69-682

Lyman & Morse 45: 38-379;

CR 38DS: 48-477; 48-478;

CR 40DS: 48-476; 48-478; 48-479; 50-494; 50-496; 50-497; 50-498;

Arcona 40DS: 50-494;

Racers

Figaro 2:pG4-PT36; 4-37; 5-42; 6-52; 6-53; 6-55; 6-56

VOR 70: PG16-PT160; 17-187

Farr 400: 67-661

Soto 40: 96-952;

Lifting keel/centerboarder

Southerly yachts: PG11-PT104;

Allures 45: PG10-PT93; 100-996;

Allures yachts: 25-248;

OVNI 425: 23-228;

OVNI 395 : 68-679; 69-690;

J 108: 67-661

Atlantic 43: 68-67

Boreal 44: 97-970; 98-974;

Multihulls till 34ft

Several Trimarans: 28-273;

Multihulls with 34ft and over

Dragonfly yachts: 26-257;

Dragonfly 35: 26-258; 27-261; 27-262;

Dragonfly 1200: 56-551;

Corsair 37: 28-276;

Farrier 39: 28-277;

Challenge 37: 28-278

Hammerhead 34: 29-385;

Hammerhead 54: 29-288; 30-292;

Trimax 10.80: 29-285;

Sig 45: 54-534; 54-539; 54-540;

Gunboat: 56-551

Fusion: 56-551;

Outremer: 56-551;

Tournier: 56-511;

Classical and Traditional boats

Jclass boats: 54-537;

Tofinou 12: 71-703;

Folck boat: 73-727;

Puffin Yachts: PG14-PT135; 14-138; 16-155;

Bestwind 50: PG12-PT116; 14-123;

Bestevaer 53: PG12-PT116;

Bestevaer yachts: PG16-PT155

Cape George 36: 41-410; 42-412;

Marieholm 33 : 42-412;

This list is not actualized. Please use the advanced search engine of the thread with the name of the model and builder. It works, most of the time.

(actualized till PG100) and it will be no more because that gives a lot of work (500 pages now).

Instead I am actualizing the titles and with the right title the thread search engine (not the one on the top of the page bit the one much below that says search thread) on its advanced option works quite well.

Hello,

Melrna posts on Miami Boat show and the comments of Smackdady about the interest of that thread lead me to think that perhaps I could share more information about sailboats I know and find interesting.

I am interested in boat design (interior and sailing performance) and I go each year at least to one of the main European Boat shows and that means basically Dusseldorf, Paris or Hamburg. On these shows you have the opportunity not only to visit the boats of the main and medium size builders but you have also the opportunity to visit the boats of small and sometime family shipyards.

Normally they build very good sailboats and sometimes they have been doing that for decades. The boats are hugely appreciated by their faithful customers but because they don't advertise their boats and there are very few on the used boat market, they pass unnoticed by the majority of the sail community.

The visit to these boats is a very rewarding experience because they are made with passion by true boat lovers and because when you talk to the guy that is on the boat, you are not talking with a dealer, that many times doesn't know much about boats, but with the builder, or the designer.

Even if you are not a buyer they will have real pleasure in talking with someone that really appreciates and understands their work. Those guys really believe in what they are doing and they do it the best way they can, no matter the cost. In a word, they are in love with what they are doing.
Of course, these boats have to be expensive.

This thread will be mainly about these boats, as a way of letting you know about these gems. Let's see if you are interested. I will not post much. If you want to know more you have just to participate and make questions.

The first one it will be the "Sirius". I have had the pleasure to visit several times their boats and to talk with the builders (father and son).

These boats have the best interiors you can find, or at least that I have seen. Not only the quality, but the design and ergonomy are fantastic. You really won't believe you are in a 32ft boat. Just incredible and amazing; Have a look at it:

Sirius-Werft Plön | Forecabin | 32 DS for 2 forecabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Owner´s cabin | 32 DS 4-berth comfort owner´s cabin
Sirius-Werft Plön | Workshop | 32 DS for 2 workshop

Now that the son is in charge they have modernized the outside look of the new boats, they look fantastic not only inside but also outside. The boats sail well and they have clients as far as Japan.

Sirius-Werft Plön | Versions of decks house | You have the choice

Another interesting point is the way they develop new boats. They work with the clients to collect suggestions on the shape and design of the boats. A truly interesting affair, between passionate clients and passionate builders.

Sirius-Werft Plön | 35 DS | Philosophy

Take a good look at their interesting site and if you find the boat interesting, please let me know, I can add some information.

Sirius-Werft Plön | english | Welcome at website of Sirius-Werft Plön

Regards

Paulo
 
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#4,314 ·
Paulo -

Wow! Really sorry to hear about your misfortune. But very glad there doesn't appear to be any serious damage. This is the last thing anyone wants to experience on a cruising vacation. Keep us posted and I trust you acquired the insurance information from the motoryacht skipper.
 
#4,315 ·
Solaris One 37 from Serigi Yachts

Now that Paulo has got me hip to Italian yachts, I've been on the lookout for them. As I was glancing at the list of competitors in Class A at the recent ORCi 2013 Championships, I came across the Solaris 36 OD, which lead me to the Serigi Yachts web site.

There, I discovered the gorgeous One 37, designed by famous Argentinian NA Javier Soto Acebal (Soto 40, Soto 30). At first, I couldn't believe it was an 11.2M yacht, since it looks closer to a 12-12.2M. The boat looks fast and elegant at the same time, and the quality of fit/finish extraordinary. No doubt this is a very expensive boat and it shows, both on the exterior and interior.

Here are two excellent videos, showing the boat under sail and at the boat show.



 
#4,316 · (Edited)
Re: Solaris One 37 from Serigi Yachts

Now that Paulo has got me hip to Italian yachts, I've been on the lookout for them. As I was glancing at the list of competitors in Class A at the recent ORCi 2013 Championships, I came across the Solaris 36 OD, which lead me to the Serigi Yachts web site.

There, I discovered the gorgeous One 37, designed by famous Argentinian NA Javier Soto Acebal (Soto 40, Soto 30). At first, I couldn't believe it was an 11.2M yacht, since it looks closer to a 12-12.2M. The boat looks fast and elegant at the same time, and the quality of fit/finish extraordinary. No doubt this is a very expensive boat and it shows, both on the exterior and interior.

Here are two excellent videos, showing the boat under sail and at the boat show.

Solaris One 37 - YouTube

Solaris 37 by eyachts new yachts for sale - YouTube
I have posted about it about one year ago when you were not around. The thread has a search motor (not the one from the site) try it and you will find plenty information and even a comparison with the Salona 38 that shares some of the characteristics even if not such a luxurious interior. Well, it is probably faster, I mean the Salona, and much less expensive and that counts too in my book;). The Solaris 37 is a great boat, I would prefer it over for instance a HR 372.

About the boats competing on the ORCI world championship, there are at least one that I had not posted about. For you to find out. It is a very interesting one but much more of a race boat than the Solaris, even if it has also a cruising potential and a relatively good interior.

Regards

Paulo
 
#4,317 ·
Since I am stuck at the Vulcano Island till the accident and the insurance is sorted out, at least I have an internet café and as I have the need to go there for emails, I will post a beautiful boat for you guys to sort it out (Island of Ponza). It is Italian, no doubt and has a carbon bimini:D. How cool is that:cool:!!!





Regarding the Vulcano Island, the place where Mr Spot seems to have born:D, I could be stuck in a worst place;)

 
#4,322 · (Edited)
Dear paulo,

I've been reading this wonderful thread for so long, coz i love sea and boats even if i've nearly never been on one lol Hopefully I think i'll start a sailing school very soon ;)

I'm really sorry about your accident in Vulcano. Meanwhile if you haven't ever visited Scilla at the north entering of the Messina Straight on the Calabrian side, well don't miss the chance ;)
That's the place where i spend my holidays lol

I can't post link or images yet so just google images for "Scilla"

And possibly i'd suggest you to try "paccheri with swordfish and aubergines" in one of the pile-dwelling restaurants (directly accessible by sea) at "Chianalea" wich is the historical fishermen district where houses are built really on the sea (kind of Venice)

google images for "Scilla Chianalea risotoranti"

Hope u'll like it ;)
 
#4,323 ·
Dear paulo,

I've been reading this wonderful thread for so long, coz i love sea and boats even if i've nearly never been on one lol Learbe d a lot of things and think i'll start a sailing school very soon ;)

I'm really sorry about your accident in Vulcano. Meanwhile if you haven't ever visited Scilla at the north entering of the Messina Straight on the Calabrian side, well don't miss the chance ;)
That's the place where i spend my holidays lol

I can't post link or images yet so just google images for "Scilla"

And possibly i'd suggest you to try "paccheri with swordfish and aubergines" in one of the pile-dwelling restaurants (directly accessible by sea) at "Chianalea" wich is the historical fishermen district where houses are built really on the sea (kind of Venice)

google images for "Scilla Chianalea risotoranti"

Hope u'll like it ;)
Thanks Polluce. Can you tell me if that is a good place to stay on anchor, the type of bottom (sand?) and the dept of anchorage? And if you know wind protection from what sides?

I may very well take your tip since I am crossing the straight going south.

Regards

Paulo
 
#4,324 ·
Tour de France a la Voile - 3

My apologies for bringing this up, but the Tour de France a la Voile really is a terrific event for those who like both ocean and round-the-can racing. And once I figured out that Facebook is where the action is for this event, I am getting my daily dose of photos, videos, commentary and news.

Anyway, I guess it is not surprising that Frank Cammas and Groupama are dominating the offshore legs, with two consecutive victories (though leg one was very, very close against Oman Sailing - only decided in the final approach to Breskens). But I am a bit surprised that Groupama is so strong in the in-port racing - indeed, they have been on the podium for every race I think (or nearly, need to check again).

By contrast, Thomas Coville, who is a masterful offshore racer, and his Sodebo team have reallys struggled, particularly in-shore. Admittedly, they had an unfortunate collision at the start of the Breskens leg, breaking their bow sprit, and finished last, subject to redress. Waiting to see where they finished on the Breskens-Dieppe leg, which just concluded.

Anyway, really encourage everyone to go check it out. The videos are too short but excellent photography, and if you go to the Groupama Facebook page you can get even more great info. I think Frank Cammas is my new hero of the moment. :)
 
#4,327 ·
Hold fast Paulo. That old friend is a right royal downer though I do hope you are back on the road faster that us. Five months and counting.
 
#4,329 ·
#4,331 ·
Re: Nm 38

A beauty isn't:)





For what I can tell in what regards Ocean racing there is little difference in the ORCI and IRC rating. It is a shame that the intention to make a only handicap rule (that was announced) seems to be going a hard way.

Here an interesting comparison between IRC and ORC, even if the ORC was updated since then:

Sail-World.com : Rolex Sydney Hobart - ORCi in its second year

sail-world.com -- Rolex Sydney Hobart 2011 ORCi versus IRC as handicap rule
Some pretty ugly boathandling, that's for sure. In the second video you'd think those guys were sailing a J/24 bumper boat. Didn't care for the wood in the interior shots of the first video, except for the cabin sole. And the hull color is pretty lame, as well. Much prefer the copper look of the hull on the NM web site.

Not sure I agree with you about ORCi type-forming, if I understand your concerns correctly. Class A was dominated by the TP52s, which are very competitive boats under IRC after the class loosened the box rule to make the boats more versatile. And I don't know anyone who doesn't love TP52s, myself included.

However, if you think ORCi hurts boats that are more performance cruiser oriented, then obviously I agree it would be a bad thing if that is, in fact the case. We know that IRC has generated some outstanding performance cruisers - we have mentioned Mark Mills in the past, and, of course, Jason Ker, both of whose boats differ in many design respects, with Ker's being a bit more extreme than Mills'. And our friends at Farr have done fine under IRC with the new First designs, as have our friends at J/Boats. However, didn't see many Farr or J/Boat models at the ORCi Championships, except for the Farr 40 ODs (which are pure race boats).

But let me go and re-read the rules comparison, so I make sure I don't misunderstand you.

Hope you're back in full cruise mode very soon.

MrP
 
#4,330 ·
Stuck on Vulcano

Thanks to all that showed concern for my situation. Not only I was hit violently by a big motorboat as the guy tried to escape from declaring it to the insurance.

It took me several days of hard ball with the Guardia Costeira and the menace to open an official inquest (that here is only made on an accident if one or both parts demand it) to have his insurance papers. They did not have contacted their insurance neither they have declared the accident to the Guardia Costera. Maybe the fact that it is a Palermo boat had something to do with that:rolleyes:

Andrews, I am very sorry to know that all the problems with your boat are not sorted out yet....bad luck when it strikes, sometimes strike several times:(

Best regards to all.

Paulo
 
#4,332 ·
The tested Pogo 40 and the Pogo 12.50, which is the new cruising version, are quite different. No more runners and not even a backstay but only very aft speaders, no more ballast tanks but only a distinctive chine in the hull. And very different deck and interior lay-outs, that have been redesigned for cruising purposes.
 
#4,335 · (Edited)
Are you talking about this movie and test sail?



If so that boat was not a racing Pogo 40 but the prototype that give the Pogo 12.50. As you can see the boat has not backstay and not water ballast tanks either.

In fact the Pogo 12.50 is a 40ft and share the hull with the racing boat. The mast is smaller, and the rigging is different as you say.

This is a test with the cruising boat, the Pogo 12.50, that was later elected boat of the year:



Regards

Paulo
 
#4,333 ·
Re: Comet 41s

Hi Paulo,
After reading the whole thread following your "saga" for a new boat and being curious about which one you would end up with, hearing that you got hit while moored was hard, man! I really hope that you get back to your trip soon and not much affected by this mishappening.

But in the meanwhile I'd like to thank you and all other posters for the boat encyclopedia you build up in this thread, besides having my eyes burning trying to recap it from the beginning (2010!!) I learned a lot about boats I haven't ever heard of.

Right now I am in France trying to visit and have a hands on test in as many boats as I can get because in Brazil this would be very, very difficult.

My plan is to have a life aboard and sail following the trades around the globe (or parts of it) for 3 years. It would be my wife and I plus, eventually, a guest couple during short stays. For this I made a start list and would like to have the forum's input and maybe some brokers/shipyards contacts. I'll be located in Marseille till July, 30.

We are looking for boats around 40' or 12m and the following models:
outremer 42/45
catana 42/45
RM 10.60/12.00
dufor 40E/405
cigale 14


What you think? Would anybody have have dealers/brokers/shipyards contacts in South of France that could share or recommend?

Renato
 
#4,334 ·
Long range Cruising sailboat

.....

Right now I am in France trying to visit and have a hands on test in as many boats as I can get because in Brazil this would be very, very difficult.

My plan is to have a life aboard and sail following the trades around the globe (or parts of it) for 3 years. It would be my wife and I plus, eventually, a guest couple during short stays. For this I made a start list and would like to have the forum's input and maybe some brokers/shipyards contacts. I'll be located in Marseille till July, 30.

We are looking for boats around 40' or 12m and the following models:
outremer 42/45
catana 42/45
RM 10.60/12.00
dufor 40E/405
cigale 14


What you think? Would anybody have have dealers/brokers/shipyards contacts in South of France that could share or recommend?

Renato
For that and assuming you have the money for the others that are more expensive I would skip the Dufour and I would join to that list the Boreal 44 and the Allures 45 and 39.

The Cigale 14 is a great boat but I think they are going to substitute it soon by a new model as they have with the rest of the range.

Try to see if Hannah (Steve) did not yet sail out of France in his new Boreal 44. That is a first that you can test to see if it fits you.

That is very interesting your choice of boat and it will just fit in the purpose of this thread so please keep us posted about it.

Basically you have to decide if you want a Catamaran or a monohull. Catamarans are generally more expensive and a big one demands previous experience with cats in my opinion. Between monohulls you have to decide if you want a center-boarder or a full keel boat. I love the Cigale, old model and all, but the 16 is just better looking.

Regards

Paulo
 
#4,341 ·
Here you go!
new 64' boat announced......no info as to what how where etc...........

"Exciting news just in for those who find the Jeanneau Yacht 57 a bit too small. A Jeanneau Yacht 64 should be available in 2014.

This will be the largest monohull sailing yacht that Jeanneau have produced, but coincidently comes 20 years after a prototype Bruce Farr designed Sun 63 that did not regrettably make it into series production."

Oh, no need to hit the link eh!

Marty
 
#4,342 ·
I dont understand Monohull thinking, Monohulls are very nice to look at traditional sailing, slow sailing contained to a cockpit or the lifeline! Once it starts healing Yeahh your having fun going slow Sideways healed over with a trick to get inside if you need a drink!

A catamaran is not hard to sail at all i dont know why people say this! I use to sail monos now i am a catamaran lover! I can get places quicker, i do not need whitecaps to have a fast sail! When the winds pick up i can go faster and safe and drink and eat in 25 plus winds! you can always find a used boat yes buying new is alot of dollar but if you have it i would buy a Catana



The Outremer is another awesome boat i prefer Dagger boards the boat points better and you can pull them up!

 
#4,345 ·
Paulo, Had not read about the rear end hit of your boat. I was with some folks a week or so ago with a Jeanneau 44DS, the day after our club left a cruise weekend, some went for a week up in the San Juans. This boat was hit, also in the transom by a 50' MV that going full astern or something of that nature. Apparently some pretty good damage to the transom. They are trying to figure out of the boat is safe to bring back to the US from Canada to get repaired, or if it will be a wreck! Not something I enjoyed hearing the other day. As this couple has only had the boat since march or so. It is a brand new 2013!

Marty
 
#4,352 ·
Looks like Bordeaux 60.........
Quote from the headmaster at the jeanneau owners forum in the thread regarding the JY64..........

"Just confirmed is that the first all new Philippe Briand designed Jeanneau Yacht 64 will be produced by April 2014 with sea trials during the summer. The image of the model gives some design clues, but emphasis will be on creating a versatile mini super yacht at a highly competitive price. A vast cockpit area, no less than 40% of overall deck space, will look after the guests, plus there will be spacious dedicated skipper and crew quarters, which no doubt will result in many JY64 going into the luxury charter market. Philippe Briand has a long and successful association with Jeanneau and Groupe Beneteau and this design will neatly fit into his elegant designs for the sister yachts - CNB 76, Bordeaux 60 and Jeanneau Yacht 57. More at: Cnb 76 : Production : Yachts : Philippe Briand : Yacht Design

So yes, it does look like the Bordeaux 60, and takes some of the design ques from it!

Marty
 
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Italy

Some news about Italy:

First, their Weather report, continuously on channel 68 is a joke. Till now they did not get one right and i am sailing here for more than 15 days. Today they forecast Nw 4. It was Se 3. That has been like that all the time:rolleyes:.

Another news, at least for me, Italians don't cruise, just stay in the marinas. Yesterday in Siracusa, lovely town and great anchorage, there were 14 boats and I was the only "Italian", at least in what regards the flag.

and the marinas are not cheap. In Marina del'Etna they wanted me to pay 115 euros for a night(I needed water and fuel) only when I said I was going to sail away they let me stay for free on the fuel ponnton that was where i was in the first place, because the marina was full:rolleyes:
 
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Perhaps you missed it on the other forum:
My 63' FRANCIS LEE, the "sliver" project was moved from the shed yesterday to the yard where it will be finished. Beam is 9.81 feet. My client has previously owned a Swede 55 and a 30 square meter. He likes narow boats. The hull is red cedar strip planking and the deck is composite glass and foam. The entire interior is CNC cut and foam cored It was built intact out of the boat and then dropped into the shell in one pice. The fit was perfect. Draft is 10 fet with a welded steel fin and a lead bulb. Total displacement will be 19,000 lbs. At this point in time we are spot on with our weights. Launch should be in two months.
 

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Hi Guys,

Finaly in Greece, Gaios,a beautiful place and before in Corfu, on the deserted west shore, Liapades. Both highly recommended, specially the first one: Beautiful and the only boat in the anchorage.

Nice passage from Italy doing almost always over 8k, many times over 9...a bit too much for my wife...not the speed but the sea condition:D

Lots of nice boats around. Lots of beautiful Comets in Italy, specially big ones (mine is a small one). Look at this 52 and tell me if she isn't a beauty;)

 
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