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06-20-2013 08:06 PM
killarney_sailor
Re: Electronics overkill?

Quote:
Originally Posted by celenoglu View Post
You do not need any electronics. Although we belive electronics makes our lives easier and safer, this is not the case. The amount of accidents increased worldwide after the introduction of electronic devices for boats.
Do you have stats to back up this contention?
06-20-2013 05:35 PM
Faster
Quote:
Originally Posted by celenoglu View Post
You do not need any electronics. Although we belive electronics makes our lives easier and safer, this is not the case. The amount of accidents increased worldwide after the introduction of electronic devices for boats.
Sounds like you need to check out this thread, starting about here....http://www.sailnet.com/forums/genera...leston-11.html

Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkofSeaLife View Post
.....(and you'd think the Coast Guard paid more for theirs! Cant keep them off it. And where did they learn to talk that fast... can you guys understand them? I canna!)
Can't always understand them, but to my annoyance I can usually hear CG group Puget Sound warning me of dredging or whatnot in Anacortes when I'm 100NM away in Desolation Sound!!
.. every 15 minutes!!
06-20-2013 05:21 PM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Electronics overkill?

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Originally Posted by Faster View Post
Seems like there's very little use of VHF/CH16 in the Caribbean chain....
Compared with the USA you can say that in spades. But that doesnt mean theres tooooo little in the Caribbean. It more likely means theres quite a LOT in the USA!

I 'spose folks wanna get their moneys worth for the $200 VHF from Westmarine. They do that.

(and you'd think the Coast Guard paid more for theirs! Cant keep them off it. And where did they learn to talk that fast... can you guys understand them? I canna!)
06-20-2013 03:31 PM
celenoglu
Re: Electronics overkill?

You do not need any electronics. Although we belive electronics makes our lives easier and safer, this is not the case. The amount of accidents increased worldwide after the introduction of electronic devices for boats.
06-20-2013 03:30 PM
Faster
Re: Electronics overkill?

Seems like there's very little use of VHF/CH16 in the Caribbean chain....
06-20-2013 02:27 PM
CaptainForce
Re: Electronics overkill?

I enjoy having my radar, GPS and depthsounder, but we did coastal cruising from North Florida to the Keys and the Bahamas for twenty years without these. We always had the VHF, but we never had an occasion to use it in an emergency. We did use a lead line and an RDF.
06-20-2013 02:13 PM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Electronics overkill?

Quote:
Originally Posted by chef2sail View Post
Unless the ship/ boat is a fishing vessel in which case it doesn't carry AIS . I think the radar and AIS are equally important.

.
Come on. Gotta grow up a bit!

Fishing boats use it. Especially ocean going ones. Its obligitaory in the Med where the OP is coming from.

If any dont use it then they are costal USA boats that also should grow a brain before they are legislated to have one.
06-20-2013 01:40 PM
chef2sail
Re: Electronics overkill?

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Originally Posted by MarkofSeaLife View Post
Absolutly 100% must have is:
AIS Transponder
ECN chartplotter/PC etc that runs AIS
VHF
EPIRB
Autopilot.


Not necessary:
Radar
SSB radio

Remember two boats have been lost doing transatlantic this year, one at least looks like it was hit by a ship. You really need AIS its the only thing that can show ships where you are as opposed to showing only you where ships are.
J
Mark
Unless the ship/ boat is a fishing vessel in which case it doesn't carry AIS . I think the radar and AIS are equally important.

Comming into NY Harbor at night last year about 25 ships showed up on AIS while there were 45 others with additional radar signatures. Just going on the AIS would have been useless and / or more dangerous.
06-20-2013 11:54 AM
lawsonmitchell
Re: Electronics overkill?

OK. I think I have a sensible, but short list of electronics.
EPIRB a given. Should be required.
I'm thinking windvane over autopilot.
And while AIS sees ships it doesn't see squalls.
Though I will probably get an AIS transciever to interface with PC-based GPS Chart plotter. Seems like sensible redundancy.
Depth gauge
VHF x 2
SSB or sat phone
Handheld GPS
Radar (Unless I can be convinced it can be comfortably replaced by AIS)
06-20-2013 10:36 AM
MarkofSeaLife
Re: Electronics overkill?

Quote:
Originally Posted by lawsonmitchell View Post
Med to Caribbean to Florida.
Absolutly 100% must have is:
AIS Transponder
ECN chartplotter/PC etc that runs AIS
VHF
EPIRB
Autopilot.


Not necessary:
Radar
SSB radio

Remember two boats have been lost doing transatlantic this year, one at least looks like it was hit by a ship. You really need AIS its the only thing that can show ships where you are as opposed to showing only you where ships are.

Mark
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