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Jeanneau Attalia

109K views 301 replies 33 participants last post by  Waymar83 
#1 ·
Hi all,

I've been reading the sailnet fora for a few years and have not come across anyone with any comments about the Jeanneau Attalia. Anybody have any info/experience? My 1983 has served very well for the past 4 yrs (on Lake Ontario).

I have really only one minor irritant on my boat: no hot water.

Mark
 
#133 ·
A message for Atlantic Brian re Airhead toilets.
I recently read a book by Glen Damato called Breaking Seas.
The problems he had with the heads was quite interesting. You must NOT let any liquid (pee) in with the poo. His crew (ladies) managed to fill the heads with disastrous consequences.
Good luck
 
#137 ·
Hi Marty!

Finally it was fairly easy (After much research) and it was not cheap but not bad overall.

By truck from Kingston, Ontario to Miami, then on a container ship (she was strapped with her cradle to a 40ft flat container base ) straight to Barbados.

Done, now for the sailing (once I get a few things done)!
 
#138 ·
I've an Attalia (from 1984) with VP2002 (18hp) and a two bladed fixed propeller marked 84K11. I'm thinking about change to a folding propeller, but I don't know which size will be the best one.

Have anyone had the same (brand) propeller that I have? If so is, do you know what type of shaft it is? Straight or cone formed? If cone formed - how cone formed, 1:10, 1:20 or another dimension? (The boat is in the water for the moment, so I can't take the prop away at the moment. Would like to take her up first when I have the new prop.)

Have anyone, who has the same engine as I, changed to a folding propeller? What is a good size of a folding propeller, according to the engine and the boat?

/Virgo
 
#149 ·
I've an Attalia (from 1984) with VP2002 (18hp) and a two bladed fixed propeller marked 84K11. I'm thinking about change to a folding propeller, but I don't know which size will be the best one.

Have anyone had the same (brand) propeller that I have? If so is, do you know what type of shaft it is? Straight or cone formed? If cone formed - how cone formed, 1:10, 1:20 or another dimension? (The boat is in the water for the moment, so I can't take the prop away at the moment. Would like to take her up first when I have the new prop.)

Have anyone, who has the same engine as I, changed to a folding propeller? What is a good size of a folding propeller, according to the engine and the boat?

/Virgo
Not sure if you are still looking here, but found the original prop from my Arcadia, it is a 360x180mm or 14x7 rh with a 22mm shaft. The previous owner put a 14" max prop. But the shaft was switched out to a 7/8".

Not sure what this does for folks.......

Marty
 
#145 ·
Ok, so we go sailing last weekend, a long weekend :) . while on the hook in clear azure blue water, I decide to go look at my shiny bronze propeller. Could not find it... It was completely covered in barnacles!!!! These little guys don't waste their time. I was able to scrub them off with a scouring pad but it looks like everything needs some kind of anti fouling.
 
#146 ·
OK,

So we went racing the last two week-ends. We have one of the smallest boats in the fleet. I am new to racing so the whole rules of racing thing are a work in progress (When cruising, I just tend to avoid boats on the water).

The crew is new to sailing for the most part but everyone is getting the hang of tacking, gybing and hiking on the rails. Timing is getting better. I have original sails (1983). The mainsail is probably still fine but the Genny is "baggy" so needs to be either recut or replaced. My issue is boat speed. What can I expect in 10-15 kts (race last week-end)and in 15-20kts (this past week-end). She sailed really well balanced, the hull (and keel) are fine (just redone). We had a current against us on part of the course but the speed according to the GPS gave us from 4.5 to 5.5 for some of the time and 5.5 to 6.5 (which seemd OK). Only once did it briefly tip over 7. OK, so the waves are on the bow for the upwind leg (but only 1-2 meters or so these last two weeks). What gives? Marty, Jens?

PS winds were from the east, here is the course: the longest leg of the course is the tack up to the eastern-most mark, which is also against a current and against the waves and the run on the way back (but we have no pole or spinnaker so that was annoying). http://www.barbadoscruisingclub.org/pdfs/BCCREGATTA2013.pdf
 
#147 ·
Issue i see is you are using gps speed! so if you are going 4 knots on one leg/tack, but 6 on the other........do you have a 2 knot current against on the slow, so 4 knots plus 2 knots current equals the 6 knots on the other leg. Or the other leg has 5 knots boat speed plus one knot current. Other leg is 5 kntos boat speed less one knot current.

Reality is here, you need to look at the knot meter, NOT the GPS as your only measure of speed. GPS will tell you over the ground, knot meter tells you actual water speed. As noted, over the ground can be different than water speed!

speed for me is in the mid to upper 5's, sometimes low 6's for 10-15, 15-20 depending upon the sail up, can be over powered with a 155, and need to go to a 140 or a 155 with a reef. upper 5s and lower 6's upwind, surf into the low 8's down wind, with 6 pretty consistant. I can usually do .5 knots boat speed per knot of wind down wind to a degree.

You might also check the mast center same with spreader area. are the spreaders the same ht to the deck on ea side. along with is the tension on the shrouds correct. Not to loose etc.

Marty
 
#148 ·
Dear Mark
On my home page Attalia 31 32 Trud jenskondrup.dk you will find a polar diagram for the Attalia - that gives you some idea of what can be expected in boat speed from different speeds and angles of wind. I got it from a French Attalia site theat seems to have been closed.
In my experience, the Attalia is very sensitive to waves because of its large beam - so do not point too high in waves above 0.5 m.
Good luck.
Jens
 
#150 ·
Jens,

I looked at your polars, real similar to my arcadia. That must be why here in the states, there is not much difference in ratings under phrf, 3-6 secs a mile. SWAG under ims/irc .87 vs.88 or something that close.

Marty
 
#151 ·
Thanks guys!

Racing season is over. It will start again in December. Bummed out a little as racing is pretty amazing (especially in the Caribbean), even with the original sails. I'm really looking forward to racing again. Next activity is a sail to St-Lucia and back (110 miles).

If you are up to it, we are hosting the Mount Gay Rum Round Barbados Race Series ( a variation on the Round Barbados Race from last year). 5 days of racing in January (including the Round Barbados race). Here is the link: The Mount Gay Rum Round Barbados Race 2014
 
#152 ·
Just sounds great. In Denmark, we pause racing from mid September until late April (too cold and dark).
I was in St Lucia about 20 years ago - a wonderful island.
Good luck to you and your crew when you start again.
Jens
 
#153 ·
A few weeks ago I was in Canada and took a ferry across the St-Lawrence River at Riviere-du-Loup. end of July, the warmest time in Canada. I had to go below deck and get a sweater and windbreaker out of the car because the wind was blowing cold... When you race, you want wind, but in Canada its cold so you need to dress for it. Here i Barbados we are in t-shirts (optional), shorts and barefoot. if its a serious race I will wear shoes in case some one steps on my foot or I stub my toe.

But seriously if you even remotely think of coming down for the race, I'm sure I can put you up!
 
#155 ·
A few weeks ago I was in Canada and took a ferry across the St-Lawrence River at Riviere-du-Loup. end of July, the warmest time in Canada. I had to go below deck and get a sweater and windbreaker out of the car because the wind was blowing cold... When you race, you want wind, but in Canada its cold so you need to dress for it. Here i Barbados we are in t-shirts (optional), shorts and barefoot. if its a serious race I will wear shoes in case some one steps on my foot or I stub my toe.

But seriously if you even remotely think of coming down for the race, I'm sure I can put up with you!!!!
There,,,,, fixed it!:eek::eek::rolleyes::rolleyes::laugher:laugher:D:D
 
#154 ·
On another note, I'm planning the sail over (and back) to St-Lucia in 10 days. Its about 110 miles Port to Port one way. About a 18hr sail one way and about 26hrs back. I've sailed it back once, in a slightly smaller boat (a Hunter 30) so no worries there as long as we have a weather window.

I'm looking at all the systems on board and what I need to change-improve-add as this is a more serious hop over. I really only have very basic stuff onboard: VHF, compass, handheld GPS, paper charts. This is not coastal cruising. Its a little more serious. I'll buy an epirb and borrow a liferaft and sat phone. I'll be adding jacklines for the passage and we all have self inflatable PFDs and harnesses.

I need to check the reefing lines which have had little use. Do any of you have pictures of how you reef the main as well as how all the lines are used on the mast. I rigged them about three years ago but I have the feeling the previous owner got mixed up with some of the lines and left it like that. fro example, I have no lines leading aft from the starboard side. The only two lines I have coming from the mast are the Genoa and main halyards.

I've read a number of posts here and the cruising forum about minimal equipment etc for a safe passage but I'm really looking for specifics for a boat our size.
 
#157 ·
I know its the weekend so most of you ''Northerners'' should be out sailing but I have another issue. I've been wanting to rewire the set up with the batteries. its just a jumble of wires with no fuses so its a hazard waiting to happen. I've been looking around reading various fora, specifically looking for pictures of a proper set up. The ones I can find all have lots of room. We Attalia-Arcadia owners do not. SO I was wondering about your own electricals. This is, I am ashamed to say, what I have:

I would like to secure the batteries a little better but I have very little clearance under the plywood. The charger also seems to heat quite a bit when charging. When I am on shore power, I leave the two plywood panels off the berth for better air circulation.
 
#158 ·
Where are those batteries kept? Looks like under an aft berth in rear state room? My house battery is under the nav seat, the starting battery in the engine compartment.

I can see why you may have a mess of wires, if that is the normal spot, or someone moved things around in the past.

Marty
 
#159 ·
Dear Mark
I have mine in the same location - only that the starting battery is in the same compartment. My wires are much more messy than yours. They are, however, all linked to the switch board panel next to the navigation table - with proper fuses (push buttons) The few exceptions (e.g. heater) have separate fuses. My charger is in the cockpit locker.
You are right that the batteries should be better fixed - one terrible story from the Fastnet race in 1979 was a battery flying through the main cabin. Mine are fixed with a wooden board across the batteries and fixed to wooden boards on both sides of the compartment, installed for this purpose. Good idea with the boxes to collect possible spills of acid.
Best regads
Jens
 
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