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01-19-2007 03:55 PM
cardiacpaul Don't get me started on that simpleton boob, "inventor of the internet" Al Gore. If my heart rate reaches 150, I fall down and piss myself. not pretty.
Global warming, my fat white a@@. El Nino, pffft.... I think is because the folks in the trailer down the street Meth lab blew up. Yup,its all their fault.
01-19-2007 03:55 PM
sailingdog But CP.... it is winter time and you're supposed to have snow and ice...
01-19-2007 03:50 PM
T34C Aint Global Warming Great!!
01-19-2007 03:41 PM
cardiacpaul who the hell are you kiddin'? its 35F, "fixin'ta" rain & the ice just melted from last week. Tonight we're supposed to get a "wintery mix" (uh-huh) and snow tomorrow, I want to fire up the nazi quad car and head outta here on the first thing smokin' SOUTH!
01-19-2007 03:29 PM
Cruisingdad CP,

It's a nice warm day for a sail, isn't it? At least in this weather you wont have to worry about that thing in your chest.
01-19-2007 03:28 PM
Giulietta All I can say in Texan is:

Buenos Dias Y'all!!!
01-19-2007 03:23 PM
cardiacpaul a texas boy here, lemme give ya some other texas sayings

"bless your heart" = f-you.
"Fixin' ta" = getting ready to
"you-un's" = y'all... plus one (usually the number of people you can fit into the back of your pick-up truck without drawing the attention of the po-lice)

I'm all over the catalina 30, if it doesn't work out, you can sell her easily and a fairly good passle of kiddo's can wander around without drivin' y'all nuts. .

I'm in far north texas, and am bored stupid. The cuban is drivin' me nuts, the 13 year old is about to get her head handed to her in a basket and this thing in my chest is itchin' like an STD.
01-19-2007 02:40 PM
CaptKermie Sonofason:
there is some very good advice here, choose what is applicable to your circumstances.
For what it is worth, do not be so quick to discount trailerables, they can be slipped like any other boat and if it is the one you plan to sell when you upgrade, it is easier to sell and does not have monthly slip fees to pay while on the market for sale. Also if you start small and then upgrade be absolutely sure it is popular and resellable, there is a reason why there are so many boats for sale these days. Do some demographics research, a real eye opener, many baby boomers entering retirement age. When they sell their boats in a few years the markets will be flooded, you will have trouble selling any boat, there simply aren't enough younger buyers out there and what ones there are come from the instant gratification generation and they buy powerboats. A bit of demographics research will tell you that any sailboat you buy is going to be a white elephant later on, so plan to keep it, or have it inherited. One more thing, if you unexpectedly become financially squeezed, that monthly moorage fee is going to be the first expense you want to divest yourself of and few others will want to assume it, depending on the economic climate, that is where trailerables have the advantage.
01-19-2007 11:41 AM
Cruisingdad Winter boat sales are typically slow. You may be able to negotiate a better deal now. As far as the type and size, a few days with a captain and you will get yourself around enough to make things work. The splitting the rent with other sailors is the safest option - but will that get you what you want? If so... it sounds like a win-win.

As far as the Catalina, it is the right choice and a good solid boat with great resale (as far as boats go). Let me know models that you like and I will give you an honest evaluation.

- CD

PS Good to hear on the kids. If sailing is your passion, your kids will become passionate about it too. It is an adventure the family will love.
01-19-2007 11:36 AM
Originally Posted by sonofason
A lot of great info here. A trailering boat is pretty much out of the question as I live 1hr to 1 1/2hrs from where I'd be sailing, depending on traffic. I've thought about the sailing clubs, but of the ones I've looked at the rental discounts aren't that substantial unless you go halves w/other members, which logistically for me is difficult to swing.

CD my goal is definately to get the kids involved as young as possible, just want to be somewhat proficient 1st. I envision it as becoming our primary "quality time" activity, eventually, and the wife is on board with that.

Sounds like no-one likes the idea of the old boat.

How does this sound? Get some sail buddies to share rental expenses at the local sailing club, sail as often as possible for 6 mos or so, then start looking for a not-so-new (mid 80's or is that still too old?) 32 footer w generator and AC. Then get some private lessons on that boat.

Also, I should definitely get a Catalina. Or was it I should under NO circumstances consider getting a Catalina

BTW, is there a best time of year to buy a boat?
Sounds like a good plan. You have to do the planning, not us here...
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