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07-05-2013 02:21 PM
hellosailor
Re: Am I an 'operator' at anchor?

I'd have to think the image shift came in the late 60's when cops were being called up against hippies, druggies, anti-war demonstrators (or patriots, depending on which point of view you took).

That solidified "us vs them" and "pigs" pretty firmly. Shortly after came "the thin blue line" where cops always back up cops and they divide the world into brother officers and ****oles, and that's the exact term they use for anyone who isn't on the force.

The same thing could be said for both sides: It only takes one bad apple to spoil the reputation of the entire bunch. Cops *know* that only civilians kidnap kids. Civilians *know* that Serpico was real and corruption on the force is common.

So...why should watercops-vs-sailors be any different? Even the police psychologists will tell you that police entry tests & qualifications come within a very fine line as being the same as thugs and bullies. In theory, the USCG's orientation toward SAR instead of Enforcement made them different. Well...What's that dual mission called again? Jekyll & Hyde?
07-05-2013 11:50 AM
peoples1234
Re: Am I an 'operator' at anchor?

The "War on Drugs" has been one of the biggest contributors to the schism between the police and the people.
07-05-2013 11:13 AM
JimMcGee
Re: Am I an 'operator' at anchor?

Thought of this thread when I saw this story.

Women subjected to roadside body cavity search on suspicion they might have been smoking marijuana.

Outrage over highway body cavity search - CNN.com Video

Or this story from Florida
Woman told to lift bra at traffic stop - CNN.com Video

Think for a minute about these incidents happening to your wife or daughter...
07-02-2013 12:47 AM
jackdale
Re: Am I an 'operator' at anchor?

A musical interlude from RCMP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5m2...e_gdata_player

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07-02-2013 12:43 AM
chef2sail
Re: Am I an 'operator' at anchor?

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Originally Posted by Grunthrie View Post
Well, that escalated quickly!
Sorry to reply to the comment...but the personal comments are not really germane to the issue.

Back to the OP

As stated most law enforcement officials as well as the CG do the best job possible I believe. In any organization you will have Wyatt Earps who abuse their authority and overstep their job descriptions. They should be dealt with in all cases as it gives a bad name to the majority who protect and rescue us and keep us safe.

Unfortunately the news media picks out the aberrant officials and sensationalizes it. It is up to us to put it into the proper perspective and insure it is not a trend or a culture, and once this is done treat it as it is...a singular incident not indicative of the whole organization. To cast blame on the whole group off the reporting's of a news article or story is not only unfair, its unsubstantiated.
07-02-2013 12:00 AM
Grunthrie
Re: Am I an 'operator' at anchor?

Well, that escalated quickly!
07-01-2013 11:39 PM
chef2sail
Re: Am I an 'operator' at anchor?

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
You really have a way with words. An obnoxious way.
BTW

I was agreeing with what you posted about the LEOs. While the media picks out specific cases and blows them out of proportion, the majority of them are upstanding people protecting us. Same with the CG.

It's like a "sport" on here to take an incident or news article and extrapolate it into the norm. Whether its the LEOs or the rescue of a boat offshore. Taking one sample and using to " broad brush" as you stated doesn't make it so.
07-01-2013 11:28 PM
chef2sail
Re: Am I an 'operator' at anchor?

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
You really have a way with words. An obnoxious way.
Stop with the personal stuff. It has become a trend. Feel free to either look past my threads or place me on ignore. You're personal feelings about me and observations do not add to discussion and are inappropriate. Short of that try and stick to the topic. It's not about me...carry on.
07-01-2013 09:14 PM
DRFerron
Re: Am I an 'operator' at anchor?

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Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
Not me! I do avoid certain destinations that are nuts. However, we've anchored in the Bay and watched five July 4th fireworks shows at the same time surrounding the shoreline. Awesome!!

...
That's one of the pluses of my marina. We're right on the bay. Zero protection from weather but the sunsets, no flies and ability to sit in our cockpit or wander the dock watching all the fireworks displays around the bay is worth it.
07-01-2013 09:07 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Am I an 'operator' at anchor?

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Originally Posted by DRFerron View Post
Just about everyone I know avoids taking their boats out on holidays.
Not me! I do avoid certain destinations that are nuts. However, we've anchored in the Bay and watched five July 4th fireworks shows at the same time surrounding the shoreline. Awesome!!

Plus, they are some of the few weekends that we don't have to get guests back to the dock by Sunday. Relaxing.
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