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06-27-2013 11:31 AM
outbound
Re: Good Blue Water / Shallow Water Compromise

May also wish to look at older Hinckley B40s or the smaller Shannons. They are definitely "centerboard blue water boats". Given they are narrow with external teak to maintain their prices have come down quite a bit. However, owners tend to take very good care of these jewels and they were built right from the start so even an old one is likely to be Bristol fashion.
06-27-2013 10:58 AM
Capt.aaron
Re: Good Blue Water / Shallow Water Compromise

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A lot of people don't like having a lot of gear in the cockpit, like a main traveler, or a mizzen, or even a tiller(!) because it gets in their way during cocktail time, but having all that gear there really makes perfect sea sense.
Yeah, that was why we took the mizzen out, and that was like, 25 years ago. I then moved to an outboard rudder, so now my tiller ends where it used to begin, opening up the cockpit. Instead of a traveler I have a bridle set up. I hate a clutterd cockpit. I do miss the way she used to short tack with the mizzen. I had posted some pics on another thread titled " Key west to Guanaja, we made it" or something like that. I don't know how to drag those thumbnails to this thread, But there is a good pic. of My father in law at the tiller, standing where the mizzen was. There is also a pic of my Soverel on my page, again I don't know how to move immages a round this sailnet thing, it's frustrating for those of us who don't even know what URL is never mind what do with it. I have a ton of good pics of the boat and it's restoration process on my face book, but getting them here to sailnet has been a losing battle for me.
06-27-2013 10:57 AM
JonEisberg
Re: Good Blue Water / Shallow Water Compromise

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It's old school for sure, but as far a self tending short tacking in a good amount of wind, you can't beat that configuration. I am currently working on re steping my mizzen. Not an easy task as my tiller now crosses over where the mizzen step is. I'm working on a custom A frame base for the mast.
If you re-step your mizzen, what becomes of your windvane? Didn't you just install a Cape Horn prior to your last trip south?
06-27-2013 10:47 AM
krisscross
Re: Good Blue Water / Shallow Water Compromise

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As for the yawl set up. It's old school for sure, but as far a self tending short tacking in a good amount of wind, you can't beat that configuration. I am currently working on re steping my mizzen. Not an easy task as my tiller now crosses over where the mizzen step is. I'm working on a custom A frame base for the mast.
A lot of people don't like having a lot of gear in the cockpit, like a main traveler, or a mizzen, or even a tiller(!) because it gets in their way during cocktail time, but having all that gear there really makes perfect sea sense.
06-27-2013 10:23 AM
Capt.aaron
Re: Good Blue Water / Shallow Water Compromise

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Very interesting... I hear a lot of good things about that type of sail configuration.
Here is a very nice C&C Corvette that was converted to a yawl:
1969 C&C Corvette sailboat for sale in New York
There are really solid boats.
That's a great boat at a decent price. I also browse sailboatlistings.com often. There is a lot of solid, affordable, blue water boats on that site. My freind and I bought a 68, Cal, 38 with a newish Yanmar and a lot of bells for 18 G's last year. As for the yawl set up. It's old school for sure, but as far a self tending short tacking in a good amount of wind, you can't beat that configuration. I am currently working on re steping my mizzen. Not an easy task as my tiller now crosses over where the mizzen step is. I'm working on a custom A frame base for the mast. But back to the OQ of the OP. These last 2 boats introduced by Krisscross are definate Maybe's for you IMOP.
06-27-2013 10:07 AM
krisscross
Re: Good Blue Water / Shallow Water Compromise

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Years ago, with just the Mizzen and a self tending club footed jib, I could short tack up 20 knots of wind into little harbours and creeks by just pushing and pulling on the tiller....like driving a sports car....
Very interesting... I hear a lot of good things about that type of sail configuration.
Here is a very nice C&C Corvette that was converted to a yawl:
1969 C&C Corvette sailboat for sale in New York
There are really solid boats.
06-27-2013 08:56 AM
Capt.aaron
Re: Good Blue Water / Shallow Water Compromise

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This is a great boat at a good price. It is still rigged as a Yawl which is rare. Most, like mine have had the Mizzen removed. I have also moved my rudder back to an out board set up. I miss my mizzen how ever. Years ago, with just the Mizzen and a self tending club footed jib, I could short tack up 20 knots of wind into little harbours and creeks by just pushing and pulling on the tiller....like driving a sports car....and they really are Blue water boats. I just ran, like I said 700 miles in some pretty big following seas at some points and she was right at home out there.
06-27-2013 08:48 AM
krisscross
Re: Good Blue Water / Shallow Water Compromise

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I have a cheap old center board sloop ( Soverel 28). 3 foot board up and 8 foot with it down. Mine is 1965 model. I love it. I just ran 700 miles off shore with the board up the whole way. The more time I spend off shore in this thing the less and less board I put down. Even pointing I only put it down 1/2 way at most. I like my Soverel any way's. For what it's worth, I see 'em for sale here and there from time to time.
There is one for sale here: 1962 Soverel 28 sailboat for sale in Vermont
06-27-2013 12:15 AM
Capt.aaron
Re: Good Blue Water / Shallow Water Compromise

I have a cheap old center board sloop ( Soverel 28). 3 foot board up and 8 foot with it down. Mine is 1965 model. I love it. I just ran 700 miles off shore with the board up the whole way. The more time I spend off shore in this thing the less and less board I put down. Even pointing I only put it down 1/2 way at most. I like my Soverel any way's. For what it's worth, I see 'em for sale here and there from time to time.
06-26-2013 10:31 PM
dvuyxx
Re: Good Blue Water / Shallow Water Compromise

The 36 is similar above the waterline. But below the 35 is a long skeg keel with centerboard, and the 36 is a fin keel with the rudder far aft at the stern.
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