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06-29-2013 05:49 PM
manatee
Re: Trying to be prepared for the inevitable hurricane

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Are there any other options?
In the immortal words of Arthur, king of the Britons:

'RUN AWAY!'
06-29-2013 09:32 AM
capecodda
Re: Trying to be prepared for the inevitable hurricane

I like the fact that the swivel on your mooring is on top. Attach your main pennant and extra pennants to that swivel.

I rode one out on a mooring that had the pennant attached below the ball. To be "safe" I added to additional pennants, same attach point. I was in a tidal river. With the currents, wind, and waves the boat made many trips around the mooring during the storm. One of the extra pennants chaffed through after getting wrapped around the chain, and working with the sea state.

My first choice is to haul. Some of the boat yard's in my area will only haul if they have time to step the mast (which is unlikely unless you haul many days in advance). The are worried about jack stand domino's.

We've weathered a few, including a direct hit with Hurricane Bob on moorings. Strip everything, extra chaffing, get to the most secure place with the least fetch you can find and cross your fingers. Think minimum windage, no sails, no dodgers, put life rings below, etc. Connect your halyards to strong points on deck to help support the mast if the standing rigging gets compromised. Remove the anchor if it can interfere in
any way with the mooring lines and chafe them.

I watched hurricane Bob from the shore on a small harbor with minimum fetch. Horizontal spray from the sea (not rain) was like a car wash from the surface up to about 20 feet in a very protected harbor. Sailboats would lay over until the spreaders touched. Very convincing, don't stay on the boat if you have a choice, secure and get to a safe place.
06-28-2013 02:40 PM
KarlP
Re: Trying to be prepared for the inevitable hurricane

My hurricane plan is to park it in a field 40 miles inland.

One of my criteria for my boat was trailer launchable. I ended up with a Cape Dory 25. The Bristol 24 has 5" more draft and an extra ton of weight that pushed it beyond the limits of my tow vehicle. You can probably pull it off with the right trailer at the right ramp with the right truck. It will probably take you a while to find the right launching trailer for that boat, but it would pay for itself in a few years of launching, hauling, and storage fees.

Have any friends/family with a big pickup? If not, do you have a United Rental or Hertz equipment rental nearby? :-)
06-28-2013 11:26 AM
Tempest
Re: Trying to be prepared for the inevitable hurricane

+ 1 on firehose. A boat neighbor gave me a coil to cut up in Irene and it seems to protect from chafe without building up heat from friction.

I also have these Shock Absorber style snubbers that I bought a number of years ago, that I can no longer find. But they are fantastic. They almost look like an auto absorber.

My Marina and others nearby took a pretty hard hit by Sandy. I stayed in the water and survived, but that was as much luck as anything. ( though, I did tie up very well and took everything down ( boom included) and removed everything of value from the boat,

Most of the damaged boats were those that were lifted off their jackstands by the surge and landed in piles as the tide receded. Most of the docks in my section were destroyed, including part of mine. ( I had to crawl out on the remaining planks to get to the boat) .

The Docks and poles are all new now and the poles are 3X higher than they were. As a result of that new height, just about everything on land would be under at least 10' of water before docks floated off the poles. Given that, I feel safer in the water now, and would stay in again.
06-28-2013 10:34 AM
zeehag
Re: Trying to be prepared for the inevitable hurricane

my marina neighbor in la cruz lost a line to chafe FROM his garden hose anti-chafe gear--we recommend fire hose--the outside part made of cotton or whateveritis--works best...seen that...use it---besides, garden hose isnt an inch in diameter. firehose will accommodate real lines, not just string.
my slip i chose for furycame season has 4 pilings....is double wide slipand strongly installed cleats i checked for stability. i tie a flat tarp onto my coachhouse securely with 1/2 inch line over the top and i wait for the rain to go away. so far we have been fortunate...only had the overlap of one huge wet ts/huricane...cosme was enormous, at over 600 miles in diameter, which delivered 40 kts of wind and torrential rains to us here along coast of colima and jalisco estados in mexico....mazatlan even had rain from this system...
we are aware this wasnt a true hit--it was a slide by only-- what we will do for roller furling foresail this season is wrap with line opposing the direction of furling wrap....to keep wind out and be ready in case of need to flee.
06-28-2013 08:32 AM
cthoops
Re: Trying to be prepared for the inevitable hurricane

Thanks for the suggestions so far, everyone.

If there's something bearing down a la Sandy, we would definitely haul out. However, here in Connecticut hurricanes are often downgraded quite a bit before it gets here (assuming it doesn't miss us completely). Hauling out every time there's a threat isn't going to work for us financially. We're going to have to look at all of the forecasts, take our best guess, and often just cross our fingers (after removing the boom, sails, etc.).

So it looks like we could shackle the extra lines to the shackle on the mooring ball, and then tie them to the mast. Makes sense I guess. Are there any other options?

Thanks.
06-27-2013 11:28 PM
Harborless
Re: Trying to be prepared for the inevitable hurricane

Well where are all the islanders and floridians on this?

One, save the money on chafing gear and use garden hose to insulate lines. Much cheaper.
two, apply four by twos or even six or eight by twos over each two fenders. This protects the entire side of your boat without having to have tons of fenders. Just make sure you secure the top of the board with lines to the toe rail and swim under your boat and tie the bottom line to the other side of the boats toe rails to avoid wind blowing them away.
three, if your in florida south of st augastine find a mangrove and even better a creek with mangroves. Tie lines in spiderweb formation to trees, mangrove roots, and throw out as many anchors and rode as you have. Avoid mooring fields and crowded anchorages and marinas or beware.
four, dont just remove the sails, remove the boom, strip your boat down.
five, duck take your portholes. Mineral spirits will remove any sticky residue after the storm leaves.
six, try to find creeks or channels as far inland and as little crowded as possible.
seven, if its a category four or five expect damage. Remove boat valuables and important documents before storms arrival.
lastly pray or hope, depending on your beliefs.
06-27-2013 11:03 PM
Minnewaska
Re: Trying to be prepared for the inevitable hurricane

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Originally Posted by mad_machine View Post
I am in the market for new insurance. I was told by mine that they no longer cover anything beyond basic liability for any boat kept in a hurricane flood zone.
Get an agent to shop for you. Your carrier may just want out.
06-27-2013 10:38 PM
mad_machine
Re: Trying to be prepared for the inevitable hurricane

Quote:
Originally Posted by Minnewaska View Post
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However, insurance companies are in the business of setting odds and trying to beat them. They all recommend going on the hard and often will help pay for it.
I am in the market for new insurance. I was told by mine that they no longer cover anything beyond basic liability for any boat kept in a hurricane flood zone.
06-27-2013 08:55 PM
dvuyxx
Re: Trying to be prepared for the inevitable hurricane

There is just no way to measure. I'm 7 mi. up a river (Severn/Annapolis) on a cove protected by a natural jetty/point. It feels safe, but who knows.
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