SailNet Community - Reply to Topic

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest > General Discussion (sailing related) > Question for Chesapeake Sailors
 Not a Member? 


Thread: Question for Chesapeake Sailors Reply to Thread
Title:
  

By choosing to post the reply below you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Message:
Trackback:
Send Trackbacks to (Separate multiple URLs with spaces) :
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Click here to view the posting rules you are bound to when clicking the
'Submit Reply' button below


Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Click here to view the posting rules you are bound to when clicking the
'Submit Reply' button below


Topic Review (Newest First)
06-29-2013 08:03 AM
Seaduction
Re: Question for Chesapeake Sailors

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRFerron View Post
This would be impossible. Too many variables. My best boat for where I am in life, geographically, sailing goals, etc. is not your best boat.
Aw shucks.... I knew that. How true that not everyone wants or needs the same sailboat. I would never make a statement saying that "Catalinas are Crap" but priced well and not suitable for coastal cruising.
06-28-2013 11:10 PM
chef2sail
Re: Question for Chesapeake Sailors

I like the Annapolis idea. Good close hauled sail for 4 hours picking up a mooring under the Spa Creek bridge. Water taxi and town should keep the teen occupied.

My experience on the Magothy in the summer is that's its super crowded as JeffH mentioned, especially with power boaters and not just weekends. I would not swim there either. We avoid it till fall.

You could then broad reach it up under the bridge to the Patapsco River and into Bodkin Creek 4 hour sail, and a anchor in Jubb Cove. Nice quiet setting, not crowded like the Magothy, protected. Peaceful. Nice 4 hour beam reach the next day back to Rock Hall.

If. It was me i would opt for nature. An alternative is a broad reach to the Chester to either Grey's Inn Creek ( a favorite of ours) mentioned by Donna, or the Corsica River off the old Russian Embassy. Both Grey's and Corsica have Bald Eagle nests and far less boats in a complete nature setting vs the western shore of the Magothy or Patapso.

Don't expect great sailing in the IP, they are great for. Cruising with plenty of room for living, but generally are sluggish in light winds. Well made though.

Look for us well be on the Bay those three days.

Have fun.
06-28-2013 08:07 PM
DRFerron
Re: Question for Chesapeake Sailors

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaduction View Post
...Does anybody have a list of the best production sailboats that one should buy, kinda like a Consumer Reports rating of sailboats? ...
This would be impossible. Too many variables. My best boat for where I am in life, geographically, sailing goals, etc. is not your best boat.
06-28-2013 07:05 PM
Seaduction
Re: Question for Chesapeake Sailors

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff_H View Post
A haystack can not sail to windward......I think that was his point.

There are better and worse sailing Island Packet models. The IP 27 is not one of the better sailing models.

As for Advocate 77's long term boat buying goals for South Florida, there are a bunch of choices out there, but the IP 27 would be very low on my list of recommendations, but it would still might be on the list.

Jeff
Thanks for the clarification about the haystack, Jeff. I sorta thought he was just slamming the Island Packets in general. The OP said he was looking at a 29 and 31 IP, and was looking up to 35 feet in general. My IP31 has sailed the Florida and Bahama waters since 1985 with about 15 years sailing the Chesapeake (where Island Packets are terribly suited for sailing). Does anybody have a list of the best production sailboats that one should buy, kinda like a Consumer Reports rating of sailboats? If upwind performance is the ultimate determinant in a purchase consideration, then we should all be sailing Hinckleys... I guess
06-28-2013 05:00 PM
rockDAWG
Re: Question for Chesapeake Sailors

Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate777 View Post
At any rate, I am planning on moving back to south florida so I want to get a boat 28-35 feet that can cruise coastally up and down the coast, in the keys, cross the Gulf to the Bahamas and back. I am not crazy about cruising boats that heel alot--the boats I have been on in the ocean were heavy and did not heel that much (Dufour Gib'Sea 50, Pearson 50, Island Packet 32).
I'm nearing retirement and am seeking a safe, heavy, tub and am not looking for sailing thrills, chills, or spills.
Plus, I need to get a boat 50K or less.....
The most effective way to reduce heeling is to reduce sail or let the sail out. If this can't be done immediately and you are at the helm is to head into the wind. Over canvas will often get your in trouble when you are still learning in any particular boats. Conservative helps to gain confidence.

27 or 32 ft boat is too small for my taste. We all worked so hard in our life. I would rather get a slightly bigger boat and enjoying it. Doing it right the first time is often cheaper in the long one. For $50K you can buy lot of boat. There are plenty around for mid size entry boats from here Chesapeake to Florida. Start looking even if you are not ready to buy. It is hard to know the boar is a good buy until you know what market out there. The more you look, the more you know what you want and what you don't want.

If you don't have much experience in chartering or sailing in the bay. It is important that you know how to use the engine to move the boat comfortably. If there is too much wind for you to handle, you can drop your sail and start using the engine to get you out of the trouble.

I would suggest you to practice Figure 8 forward and reverse between two buoys or crab pots in a proper distance at the very beginning of your chartering. Practice this in calm day and windy day. Every boat moves differently in reverse; thus it is good to know before hand.
06-28-2013 04:54 PM
rockDAWG
Re: Question for Chesapeake Sailors

Hmmm... I'd like to learn more about the Haystack. I have never heard of her. Just wonder how is her down performance
06-28-2013 04:47 PM
Michael K
Re: Question for Chesapeake Sailors

Be sure to report back to us after your charter. What you ended up doing, your thoughts of the IP 27, et cetera would be interesting to read.
06-28-2013 04:44 PM
Jeff_H
Re: Question for Chesapeake Sailors

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seaduction View Post
OK, that's funny. How does a haystack sail to windward?
A haystack can not sail to windward......I think that was his point.

There are better and worse sailing Island Packet models. The IP 27 is not one of the better sailing models.

As for Advocate 77's long term boat buying goals for South Florida, there are a bunch of choices out there, but the IP 27 would be very low on my list of recommendations, but it would still might be on the list.

Jeff
06-28-2013 04:20 PM
Seaduction
Re: Question for Chesapeake Sailors

Quote:
Originally Posted by DRFerron View Post
I was basing that on what he said here. Ignore me then.
I'm often guilty of the same thing.
06-28-2013 04:17 PM
Seaduction
Re: Question for Chesapeake Sailors

Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbleheadMd View Post
Dood, IP's are tough, well-built boats, but they are heavy and go to windward like a haystack. They are poorly suited to the Chesapeake region.

My advice to you, is to widen your search pattern a bit.
OK, that's funny. How does a haystack sail to windward?
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:43 PM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.