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07-12-2013 12:20 PM
zeehag
Re: Do you have an outboard for back up propulsion?

on mine, i use a unique concept---
sails.

other wise i has oars or kayak paddles which do n0t propel a formosa 41.....

nor do i worry about returning to the same place, or to a dock, as i go away when i leave....i can vary my next location for the needs of my boat.
07-12-2013 09:50 AM
chucklesR
Re: Do you have an outboard for back up propulsion?

We hip towed our Gemini using a 2.5hp a couple times (had fuel pump issues). It worked in flat water with no wind but didn't do diddly to even hold the bow into the wind during a blow. Gemini's weigh it at 10k pounds or less and have very little wetted surface but lots of windage.

I've got a 5hp outboard for the dinghy - I don't think it would do diddly squat to push my 20k pound Irwin around.

One thing I will say, light outboards on dinghies are useless to tow - you need to do a hip tow/push to control it.
07-11-2013 10:35 PM
deniseO30
Re: Do you have an outboard for back up propulsion?

Well it's something to think on Jim. It's a mariner long shaft too. It's heavy but not impossibly so. I, with help, certainly could move the mount lower and beef up the transom on the inside.
07-11-2013 10:33 PM
chrisncate
Re: Do you have an outboard for back up propulsion?

Our little Honda 4s 2hp pushed the boat better than I ever thought it would (A-30). I could make a couple of knots (I dunno, 2-4 maybe?) in a headwind of 15 knots or so (on the Bay, including wakes and chop).

It was more than enough for a backup (of which we had none, other than sails). Some sort of side mounted swing arm set up ala' Yves Gelinas could work? It'd be easy to design for such a light motor. I could design one for you if you were interested.
07-11-2013 10:22 PM
capttb
Re: Do you have an outboard for back up propulsion?

I once lashed a Honda 2hp to the swim ladder on a Catalina 270, ladder was held horizontal by lines, at WOT the boat actually got up to 3 kts. EVENTUALLY. It was very slow to start moving, March, middle of the night, pouring rain and I only had to move 1/4 mile. It was dead still and calm with no current, just cascades of rain and dark.
07-11-2013 10:10 PM
jimgo
Re: Do you have an outboard for back up propulsion?

With your boat, you really don't NEED to steer using the tiller handle. The only thing you'd need is the throttle cable. I wonder if you couldn't make a temporary mount that you could put on the stern pulpit for the controls. As others have said, perhaps a structure (stainless steel?) kind of like a ladder that fits over the gunwals (sp?) at the back with a mount for the outboard. No, I wouldn't want to use it on a regular basis, or in really nasty seas, but for where you sail, something like that might work to get you to the nearest marina.
07-11-2013 08:29 PM
deniseO30
Re: Do you have an outboard for back up propulsion?

The mount is too high for any outboard. and it's not even reinforced inside the transom for it. It does make a good lpg tank mount LOL I've hip towed a boat with my club dinghy and it was slow but did work. The 9.9 I have doesn't even have a tiller handle, guess it could be rigged to run one speed. But lugging that thing is not something I'd want to do. sold my honda 2 hp very short shaft it was though.
07-11-2013 08:27 PM
T37Chef
Re: Do you have an outboard for back up propulsion?

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Originally Posted by TQA View Post
Do you have a dink with an outboard? If so a 'hip tow' with the dink lashed alongside works.

Even a 2hp egg beater will move a 30 footer along providing there is not much wind.
Although I have actually never done it, I have watched the Tow Boat US bring a few boats in using this technique...maybe I should try it for myself before I need to
07-11-2013 08:18 PM
Tempest
Re: Do you have an outboard for back up propulsion?

Hi Denise, Did the PO have an engine on that mount that worked for propulsion? When you say it's too high, do you mean too high for the 9.9 to fit on it and lower? I'm not sure why you'd need cable controls..wouldn't you just lock it and steer with your ships rudder?

I agree I don't know if I'd lug around the heavy 9.9 ..just in case. But a smaller outboard that could serve a dual purpose of engine back-up and dinghy outboard might be worth considering.

In either case, I'm guessing you're worried about the trans. going in the worst possible place like the C&D canal or some other narrow channel. The transom mount would get you going faster: lower, start and go. Hip towing with a dinghy takes a little time to set up. You might want to think about how to get an anchor out quickly, if you can't sail to safety.

I transit a rock lined inlet and two bridges to get in and out of my marina where there's often swift currents running. Only once in many years did my engine stall in the channel ( before I cleaned the fuel tank). But ever since then I've kept a danforth anchor mounted to my stern rail. I managed to sail back to my slip with the genoa, but it was a rare beam wind and two open bridges that allowed me to do that.
07-11-2013 04:15 PM
deniseO30
Re: Do you have an outboard for back up propulsion?

Sorry for the confusion.. LOL No I did not mean "do you have power to back up"

I'm just thinking if I had transmission problems (more matter of when, not if) rather then cut a trip short and leave my boat for salv... err repairs
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