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10-13-2013 09:31 AM
Re: Seeking recommendations / advice

Don't you wish there was a boat mall?

Good luck on your continued search!
10-13-2013 03:16 AM
Re: Seeking recommendations / advice

Unfortunately the Nordic had some maintenance issues we were not willing to take on at this point so we had to withdraw the offer. Now looking at yet another Perry designed boat down in Gig Harbor.
09-26-2013 02:42 PM
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Bob - I'd love to come by and shake your hand! I'll do some digging and see if I can get your location and contact info - don't want to drop in unexpected.
09-26-2013 09:27 AM
Tim R.
Re: Seeking recommendations / advice

Checkout the Caliber 38 or 40. Great couples LA boat with enough room for short-term guests. Good for coastal cruising but can also handle a big sea and do it faster than an IP of comparable size.
09-26-2013 09:07 AM
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Congrats Dave. If you are going to be so close by I will assume that at some point you will call and arrange to come down for a visit. Right? I'm about an hour from you.
09-26-2013 03:10 AM
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OK SailNet team. We made an offer on a 1979 Nordic 37 and the survey is set for the fourth of October. Totally stoked!!! God willing, everything will go well and by this time next month we will be boat owners again. By the way - the boat was a FSBO and we are working with the seller via a "buyer's broker" we engaged to assist us with our search. We sold our house in April, retired in August, I started school (Marine Maintenance Technology at Skagit Valley College's Anacortes Campus) and it looks like we've found our boat. Plan is to spend two years in school learning to take care of our new home, sailing the Puget Sound whenever we can after graduation, sail away. LIFE IS GOOD!!!
07-25-2013 09:16 PM
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Capsize ratio is stupid. (within a range) Cover my ass.
Motion comfort is stupid.
Numbers are stupid.
You just don't have the background, i.e. education, to interprit the numbers.
Do you know how long I have worked to understand and FEEL the numbers?

Stay with accepted shapes and accepted proportions and you should get acceptable results.

Let's look at Ballast/ Displ:

Are you sure that is the correct ballast number?
Where is the ballast?
What is the ballast.
Is the VCG of the ballast high or low?
What is the real Displ?
Is that at "out of the box" displ?
Is that at "full load" Displ?

I understand that you guys want to be really informed about this stuff but I'm not convinced you can evaluate the numbers correctly. I worry that you fret over them.

You know, in Rod Johnson's study on documented roll overs he proved quite convincingly that the boats with the best "numbers" were the ones more likely to roll over. Go figure.

Tell you a story:
My doctor wanted a CT scan on my chest. Said he saw "something" Might be cancer.
I had the CT scan. They said it would be a week before I had the results. Doctor said he wa going on vacation in five days. So here I sit for three weeks wondering if I had cancer? No way. I said I''l drive to the CT place and pick them up and bring them to you so we can get this resolved before you go on vacation. Doctor said fine.

I picked up the big, manilla envelope of CT scans and headed of to my doctor's office. I got stuck at a stop light. I thought, hell, I might as well look at the scans.

Holy jumpin' Jeehosaphat! I looked at the big "x-rays" and to my eye it looked like I was riddled with cancer. I had lumps and clumps growing out of every crevice in my lungs. I'm going to die. Tomorrow. Early.

When I got to the doctor's office and had my appointment he said I was fine.

Julie nailed it. Sail the boat.
07-25-2013 06:17 PM
Re: Seeking recommendations / advice

Personally, I think it's EVERYTHING when it comes to numbers, opinions and scuttlebutt. But NOTHING can take the place of boarding a boat and taking the time to get to know her.
07-25-2013 05:26 PM
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All right, I know I've been warned about putting too much stock in the 'numbers', but I've always used the capsize ratio as one of my threshold benchmarks. Anything over 2.0 doesn't even get a second look. Am I off base on that one as well? That criteria alone has eliminated MANY of the more modern contenders.
07-25-2013 03:45 PM
Re: Seeking recommendations / advice


Your requirements are pretty basic and, IMHO, are easily met by most production type boats. If you plan on having guests more often, or you just want the space I would look at boats like:
Beneteau 400
Hunter 40.5
Catalina 380
Hunter 380

If you won't be having guests that often and / or want something smaller and cheaper, the Catalina 36, Hunter 36, Beneteau 361 type boats would be a good choice.

For me personally I would prefer something newer and more modern design than something older and more primitive. I would insist on features like walk through or open transom, separate shower stall, etc. I would probably want a furling mainsail, generator with heat and a/c and the rest of the comforts.

Good luck,

Originally Posted by dave6330 View Post
OK - I started a thread a couple of weeks back called "full keel" and got some pretty good input from a lot of really great people.

Based on some of that input (and an ongoing conversation I'm having with a broker) I'll pose another question (fully understanding the subjective nature of both the question and the probable answers):

If one wanted to purchase a 35-40 foot boat for under $100K that will -

1) offer acceptably comfortable accommodations for a couple living aboard with space for occational guests
2) be used primarilly for coastal cruising
3) occasionally venture out into more challenging conditions (crossing the Gulf of Alaska)
4) reasonably stand up over time
5) occupy a midpoint between the lightweight racing boats and the super heavy cruisers.

What would be your recommendations and why?

Bottom Line: We are still evaluating our options and covet the recommendations of more informed and experienced sailors.
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